Judge Susan Crawford on Wisconsin Supreme Court Race

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What is the significance of the Wisconsin Supreme Court race?

Ben Meiselas 0:00
Let's talk about the most important election taking place in the country right now that if you don't live in Wisconsin, you may not know about. It's the race for the Wisconsin Supreme Court seat where currently liberals maintain a four to three majority on the court. I like to refer to that more as pro-democracy. But you have Elon Musk now spending a huge amount of money, I mean millions, In that state, it tells you how important MAGA and Musk and Trump think this state is. And they're running the playbook that we saw during the 2024 election, which unfortunately they had some success with, with these deceptive ads. But I think it's important that we now call out what they're doing. So the strategy by Musk and the MAGAs is they create these political action committees with kind of deceptive names that make it seem like They're supportive of a Democratic candidate or a liberal candidate or a specific candidate. And then they push certain messaging that they poll test to make voters not want to vote for that candidate, believing that it's actually that candidate
Ben Meiselas 1:16
sending that message. If you watch my reporting during the 2024 election, you would see that like in Pennsylvania, Musk would create these packs and they would push these things that they know would try to push voters away. So Elon Musk just dropped another million dollars to buy off this guy, Brad Schimel. He's the right wing MAGA candidate who wants that Wisconsin seat because that would turn the Wisconsin Supreme Court into pretty much a far right court. So if you're upset at the way our United States Supreme Court looks like, they want the Wisconsin Supreme Court to look just like that. Now, if you're asking how MAGA is this guy, Brad Schimel, well, Brad Schimel says that the Wisconsin Supreme Court screwed Donald Trump over. by not overturning the results of the 2020 election.
Ben Meiselas 2:06
As Judge Susan Crawford, who's circuit court judge from Dane County, who's running for that seat, says, Schimel is all about partisanship, politics, and special interests, not being fair and impartial in the court. And here's the Washington Post article. It says, in a meeting with supporters last month, Schimel said the court had treated Trump unfairly. quote, I think the odds of an endorsement are probably pretty high because, you know, one of the things he doesn't do is forget people that screw him over and the Wisconsin Supreme Court screw him over. So as Donald Trump is crushing our economy, as Donald Trump is taking a wrecking ball to federal workers, you got Schimel really wanting this Trump endorsement.
Ben Meiselas 2:48
So why don't we bring in Judge Susan Crawford, circuit court judge who's running for the seat. Judge Crawford, Musk is spending, millions against you. Why do you think that is?
Judge Susan Crawford 3:01
Well, it's not because he cares about Wisconsin. I'll put it that way. He doesn't, you know, I don't think he's ever been here. I don't think he really knows who he's running these ads against. You know, the first ad that they put out against me had a picture of a different Susan Crawford in it that they, I guess, had found on Google. So I think he's doing it for a And he's been pretty open about it. He's got paid canvassers going door to door in Wisconsin with flyers that say protect the Trump agenda. So nakedly partisan reason. And then also, I think Elon Musk is watching out for his own backside. You know, Tesla just filed a lawsuit in Wisconsin to try to throw out a decision by Wisconsin licensors saying that they could not open dealerships to sell vehicles directly to consumers in Wisconsin. There's just a state law that doesn't allow that. So he's got a personal stake in Wisconsin courts. And I think he thinks he can buy himself a seat on the Wisconsin Supreme Court.
Ben Meiselas 4:09
So let's do this. Paint a picture, if you can, for us of what it would look like if Brad Schimmel gets that seat. Paint that picture first. Then I'm going to ask you, of course, to paint a picture of what it looks like if you get on. But first, broadly, Brad Schimmel wins this. What should the people of Wisconsin be prepared for?

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