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The MeidasTouch Podcast

Maga Podcasters Turn Against Trump as Approval Plummets

26 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: Why are MAGA podcasters abandoning Trump?

0.031 - 26.393 Ben Meiselas

You know, these MAGA podcasters who sold out their audience to shill for right-wing oligarchs, now they're deeply regretting it. You have Joe Rogan and Theo Vaughn and, what's that guy, Scholz and others who were saying, actually, what ICE is doing is really bad. Actually, Donald Trump is covering up the Epstein files. On Theo Vaughn, they had Bernie Sanders as a guest speaker.

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26.373 - 49.545 Ben Meiselas

This past week, I just want to show you as these MAGA Republican podcasters are admitting that they made the worst mistake of their lives. Now, some of these podcasters are worse than others, so I'll try to draw a distinction when possible. But first, I'll show you the most MAGA of them all, the deepest betrayal of them all, I think, to his listeners, Joe Rogan.

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49.525 - 54.451 Ben Meiselas

You know, and it's always interesting to me because I'm always being told, you're like the left's Joe Rogan.

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Chapter 2: How have Joe Rogan and Theo Vaughn criticized Trump?

54.471 - 76.68 Ben Meiselas

I'm like, I'm not the freaking left's Joe Rogan. I would never want to be anything like this guy at all. I just want to be the Midas Touch podcast that stands up for humanity, that fights for empathy, that wants to restore democracy and freedom. It's just that simple to me. But anyway, here's Joe Rogan this past week talking about the Epstein files. Here, let's play this clip.

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76.66 - 84.034 Joe Rogan

Well, it's going to go on for a long time, I suspect. I mean, they said they released them, but what did they release? No, they're still not all out yet. What did they release?

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84.054 - 101.228 Unknown

Yeah, yeah. Like, it's weird. The whole thing's weird. It reminds me of that Onion article where they're like, oh, CIA realizes they've been using a black highlighter this entire time. Like... It's like that. It's like, oh, okay, you just blacked out pages. Redacted the shit out of everything.

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Chapter 3: What mistakes are MAGA podcasters admitting to?

101.668 - 114.96 Unknown

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, like, what did they release? Did they release something recently? No, they haven't released anything in a minute. They had that initial release where everything was blacked out, and it was that picture of Winnie the Pooh, which was hilarious. But isn't there talk about some new releases that are happening soon? Have they?

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It feels like everything's been drowned out by everything else been going on. Yeah. With, like, the Somalians and the ice shooting. It feels like that's completely drowned out. Anything about it. I think some of that's on purpose.

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125.429 - 140.687 Ben Meiselas

Oh, 100%.

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Chapter 4: Who is the most notable MAGA podcaster mentioned?

140.667 - 160.65 Ben Meiselas

They're terrorizing and torturing people, Andrew. They are terrorizing and torturing communities like terrorists, like the Gestapo, like the SS. And sadly, what you were doing before as a podcaster enabled this to happen. Weren't you all supposed to be like the don't tread on me crowd? This Trump regime is terrible.

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160.63 - 172.98 Ben Meiselas

exactly like authoritarian regimes across the globe, whether it's Putin or Kim Jong-un or Saudi Arabia or the Ayatollah in Iran. Trump is like them. Play this clip of Scholl's. Let's play it.

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This is why all eyes feel need their names on their badges. Because now you're getting people mixed up in the crosshairs. Talk to me. Because if they're, like, I don't know. Apparently, like, they're not named. Like, apparently, they don't have, like... Well, yeah, they got the shysties on. Exactly. It's insane. Yeah. Right? It is insane. Yeah. It's a tough look.

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And I think that, like, because we don't see it in New York... Like, we're somewhat detached from it. New Yorkers would not be going with this shit at all. Well, didn't they play that happening on the 20th? Canal. And we weren't with that shit. No, Canal's fine, but they wouldn't be fine with it happening. Listen, Canal, we've got to clean some stuff up.

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But

209.18 - 226.446 Ben Meiselas

And then you have Senator Bernie Sanders on the Theo Vaughn podcast. And Senator Sanders, let's listen to what he had to say. And Theo Vaughn's like, I agree, Bernie. I agree. Trump has authoritarian energy.

226.426 - 256.213 Unknown

authoritarian energy theo you're almost there authority is an authoritarian period here play this clip what trump is using ice for now is a domestic military operation and it's part of this intimidation and if you stand up and and that woman in minnesota good is her name um yeah renee good renee good all right i saw that video you know you don't shoot somebody in the head who is in that car

256.885 - 285.643 Unknown

and I think it's Trump saying I have the power and we got domestic Army it's called ice and we're going to go out there and we're going to arrest and we're going to intimidate and part of that this is what trumpism is about it's intimidation all right you're in the media your CBS you say something I'm going to sue you you know uh Theo you say something I don't like I may sue you you know in in I don't like Venezuela I'm gonna you know send in the troops I got the power and I'm going to use it I I really

286.13 - 308.074 Unknown

That scares me because that's what authoritarianism is about. So do we should we deal with immigration through comprehensive reform? Absolutely. I think that's what the American people want. Do we want guys with masks? around their face, dragging people out of their apartments, out of their cars. I don't think so. I don't think that's what the American people want.

Chapter 5: What authoritarian tactics are being used by the Trump administration?

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That's the issue. It's a very simple proposition. Who is AI and robotics going to work for? Does it work to improve human life? Or does it work to make the billionaires even richer? That's the question that we've got to focus on.

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531.885 - 546.911 Ben Meiselas

Now someone who's more of a right-wing podcaster, I would say, he's less MAGA and more right-wing. But here's Tim Dillon. And Tim Dillon said, you know, these are clumsy, insane, over-the-top deportations. Play this clip.

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547.051 - 560.642 Tim Dillon

When you have this clumsy... you know, kind of somewhat insane, over-the-top deportations, people are looking at this and going, you know, and this, what, did they use this Sabrina Carpenter song?

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560.883 - 561.103 Unknown

Yeah.

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561.343 - 562.164 Tim Dillon

Play this. Let's see.

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Have you ever tried this one? Have you ever tried this one? Have you ever tried this one?

579.029 - 594.744 Tim Dillon

It's unserious. It's unserious. It's childish. It's cruel. I think one of the problems with whatever the MAGA movement has evolved into is it's duped their hardcore followers so much that the only thing left now is performative cruelty.

594.784 - 601.45 Ben Meiselas

And Tim Dillon went after Barry Weiss and CBS for their total capitulation. Play this clip.

601.47 - 623.025 Tim Dillon

Now, Barry Weiss, friend of the show, is the editor-in-chief of CBS News. And Barry is running that news company into the ground at a pace and a rate that even surprises me. I'm even shocked.

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