Trump Sells Out Ukraine to Putin in Oval Office Surrender

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Ben Meiselas 0:00
Donald Trump's press conference just blew up the entire world order. Total capitulation to Vladimir Putin. I want to show you what went down and an abandonment of our support of Ukraine. So cowardly, one of the most despicable things I think in United States history. Donald Trump talks about how it's an interesting question whether or not to even view Ukraine as an equal partner in negotiations with Russia, and Donald Trump then blames Ukraine for going into a war with Russia, not the fact that Russia unlawfully invaded Ukraine. Play the clip.
Reporter 0:39
Do you view Ukraine as an equal member of this peace process?
Donald Trump 0:45
It's an interesting question. I think they have to make peace. Their people are being killed, and I think they have to make peace. I said that was not a good war to go into, and I think they have to make peace. That's what I think.
Ben Meiselas 1:05
Next up, Donald Trump talks about how he does not believe that Ukraine should go back to pre-2014 borders. By the way, this echoes what Defense Secretary, former Fox News host Pete Hegseth said earlier in the day when he was in Europe, where he said that he would not agree to have Ukraine in NATO. And he said that he would not think it is a feasible option to have Ukraine return to pre-2014 borders when Russia invaded then and annexed land the same way Donald Trump threatens to do with Canada. Here, play this clip. Sir, just to be clear, do you see any future in which Ukraine returns to its pre-2014 borders?
Donald Trump 1:47
Well, I think Pete said today that that's unlikely, right? It certainly would seem to be unlikely. They took a lot of land and they fought for that land and they lost a lot of soldiers. But it would just seem to me, and I'm not making an opinion on it, but I've read a lot on it and a lot of people think that that's unlikely. Some of it will come back. I think some of it will come back. Yeah, some of that land will come back.
Ben Meiselas 2:12
A reporter then talks about how, basically, if you're now saying, Donald, that Ukraine shouldn't be a member of NATO and shouldn't return to pre-2014 borders, aren't you essentially giving Russia everything? Literally just handing over everything to Russia? Here's what Donald Trump says. Let's play it.
Reporter 2:33
The things that Secretary of Defense was talking about, the 2014 borders and the lack of NATO membership,
Donald Trump 2:50
Well, I think that if you look at the war, the way the war is going, you'll have to make your own determination. I'm just here to try and get peace. I don't care so much about anything other than I want to stop having millions of people killed. Killed. Last night, you know, Kiev got hit very, very hard. I want to see people stop getting killed. That war is ridiculous. It should have never happened, and it would have never happened. Yeah, a couple of more questions.
Ben Meiselas 3:16
A reporter then asks Donald Trump if he would support Zelensky ceding territory to end the war. Then Donald Trump... falsely attacks Zelensky's poll numbers and spews Russian propaganda. And then you'll see soon Donald Trump talks about how he wants to see there be an election in Ukraine. Why? Because Trump and Putin want to install a Putin puppet in Ukraine. Watch what went down. Play the clip.
Reporter 3:45
Well, he's going to have to do what he has to do, but
Donald Trump 3:54
You know, his poll numbers aren't particularly great, to put it mildly. He's got a country where, you know, it's been savaged and attacked. And he's got an army that's been very, very brave, actually, despite the fact that, you In my opinion, $350 billion. That's what the real number is. You don't hear that number. And Europe has given, in my opinion, $100 billion. And they've done it in the form of a loan. And I have a secretary of treasury right now who's actually quite brave. He's over in Ukraine on a train. And there's a lot of things happening around that train that aren't so good. And he's going there to get a document done where we're going to be assured that we're going to, in some form, get this money back because we're putting up far more money than Europe, and Europe is in far more danger than we are. We have an ocean in between. Europe has nothing in between. You know what they have in between? They have Ukraine in between.

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