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THE MORNING SHIFT

Our Thoughts On Tall Poppy Syndrome

12 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

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Look, it is winter in here, but you can never be too safe. This side of the world is getting a little bit colder, but you can never be too safe. You can never be too proud to use some sunblock.

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Chapter 2: What is Tall Poppy Syndrome and why is it significant?

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I never use sunblock, and it's one of those work-ons that I need to have going forward. Apparently, you should be putting it on every single day. Skinny supplies it for kids. The Sun Booster, it's a gel sunscreen, so it's an easy apply. You know, it's not going to stick too long. It's boom, it's in. And it is also, because you need to know these things, it is auto... Water resistant. So.

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Can I have that? Bloody.

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37.508 - 43.64 Jordan

Tell them I sent you. You sold it. Can I take this home? Have two. It's actually already in my pocket.

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Have two.

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44.361 - 47.226 Jordan

No, I'd actually like one. Thank you.

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Skinny's. Available. That's what it's called.

Chapter 3: How does Tall Poppy Syndrome manifest in society?

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With Chemist Warehouse.

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Let's go. Never fold. Ten toes down, baby. You know who it is. I'm trying to be like you, mother.

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Shush. It's too late to turn back now.

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The Morning Shift. Powered by Unimedia.

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We're back. Yes, kia ora, good morning, good evening and everything in between. It's a Talk To Me Nice Thursday. We're here for our morning shifters from our misters to our sisters.

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We're back for another show just in case you missed this. It is our third. We've got three shows left. We're on the podium. It's a Wednesday.

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Three shows left here in the studio.

Chapter 4: What are the psychological impacts of Tall Poppy Syndrome?

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That's scary. We're on the podium finish.

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107.242 - 123.043 Jordan

Hey, we got exciting things to look forward to, man. We do. We say sayonara to this place. What a... I feel like I haven't grieved this place. Like, you haven't even allowed me to. Tomorrow. Tomorrow. Okay. Talk about it tomorrow. Until then, we stay blessed. Hey, don't stress.

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Chapter 5: How does cultural perception influence ambition?

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We got you covered. We got you covered. Like Sanjay, welcome to officially the number one show. If you call down under your home, welcome to new media. The People's Media. Let's go. Send them all, take a shiz off at the door. Everything you want, nothing you don't. Real people, real talk. And if we ain't number one on the charts, hopefully we're number one in your hearts.

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Let's get it, get it.

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Let's get it. Let's get it. Let's get it. Don't forget it.

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Let's get it. Let's get it. Don't you, don't you forget it.

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You guys stepped this morning?

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I stepped this morning.

Chapter 6: What lessons can we learn from discussions around success?

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I got me a good 4,000 steps in this morning, boys.

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I already got me 4,000 in. You better wake up and do something now. I'll be doing mine on incline, so it's a little bit harder. So if it's less, they were harder steps than your flat ones.

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That's all I want to say. I was stepping out there. I was two-stepping so much.

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I need the data to show who walked these steps up a hill. No, no, no. It's all contributing. It's all helping. Shout out to City Fitness helping Aotearoa step up. Look, sometimes if you can't work it out, you've got to walk it out. That's why we're doing this. You cannot tell me when you get your body moving.

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When you get a little bit more healthier, it permeates into every other aspect of your life. And that's how we raise the tide of Aotearoa. Beautiful. It's that simple.

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Also, we might have to raise the number. We thought a billion was a dream. I think if I'm just doing the numbers, I'm analysing nice and early, we're about to smack that out the park.

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This is what I reckon. We said a billion. If you help us get there, everyone helps us decide where we go next. Run it up some more. Come on.

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If you haven't, hold on, hold on. If you're like, what the hell are you talking about? And you haven't been around for a couple of weeks, we have started a, we want Aotearoa to walk a billion steps. So we'll put it in our, Endo, can we chuck it in the bio or something of today's show? Send you straight to Stridekick and we'd love to have you as part of the team. What is on the show?

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What is on the show? What is on the show today, Mark?

Chapter 7: How can we combat the effects of Tall Poppy Syndrome?

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You know when you fly on the wall and you look down and something's going on? Our good friends in Australia are having a conversation at the moment around something we are very familiar with in this country, tall poppy syndrome. Now, I was fascinated because I feel like we've always known about this kind of energy and it's been discussed.

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And Jordan, you've had your thoughts on whether it even exists or not. It's interesting to be a fly on the wall and see another country talking about something that has been a tagline for this country for so long and working out kind of what... really is tall poppy syndrome. I'm going to ask you guys to be flies on the wall with me. Listen to the conversation and see where it goes.

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I like that. Beautiful.

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I'm going to pivot ever so slightly on what I was planning on doing. And I'm just, just letting a few things marinate in my head. So I don't want to give away too much before we actually get into it. So I'm just going to leave what I plan on doing.

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Marinate.

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Yeah, it's just, you know, you don't want to put it in the oven too early. No.

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You do want to marinate it though.

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And that's what's happening right now.

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You don't want to marinate it too late though, Brooke.

Chapter 8: What role does social media play in shaping our views on success?

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Yeah. Well, the penny dropped for me this morning on this. So my partner sent me this about two weeks ago. I saw it go up in our group chat. I saw discussion. I may have even added to the discussion of like, hmm, that's a tough one. So that I didn't look like I did. Because sometimes when you conversate with people, they don't need to know you don't know.

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They just need to know that you care enough to add a comment to it, right? The context, you know. I just read the context. So long as the context is enough, they think that you're engaged in it. And that's the feeling I want to leave them with. That's enough. So... I finally, the penny dropped for me this morning when I read this and I was like, oh my gosh, how did I not understand that?

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But the quote goes, if everyone in the world wrote down their problems and put them in a hat, would you risk grabbing one or keeping yours? Bro, the last two weeks, I have not been able to understand that. Like, I just, I don't know why my brain didn't work that way. I was like, where were you? The way you two are looking at me right now is incredibly violent.

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What did you try to put together from that? I was looking at the reshares and the comments and I was going, why does everyone think this is a powerful bloody quote?

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Can you, I guess, walk us along the track as to what you thought when you first saw that so we can be on your path? When you read that the first time and it didn't land, what were you thinking like, oh, that's dumb. Who's got problems? What was the thinking behind?

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If everyone in the world wrote down their problems, first of all, Has anyone talked about the trees? That's a lot of paper. Right? For this one, I think you can go... Are we pens or pencils? Metaphorically, I think you can just... So, first things first.

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Stupid. I had a feeling this is where we were going to be.

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Awesome.

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You know, also, we can't even agree on anything.

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