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The Pomp And Joe Show

Pomp & Joe Show 3-31-26

31 Mar 2026

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Chapter 1: What exciting moments happened in the Penguins game?

1.803 - 52.641 Michael McHenry

Achari works through Shin, rips it on net, saved by Sorokin, loose in front, they score! Soderblom, the big man, with a huge goal! Raquel shorthanded to Rust, back in front, Raquel, he scores! That is the swing the Penguins needed! A shorty from Ricard Raquel, and it's 3-2! Shovels it behind the head for Manta. Shea shoots. He scores! These Penguins, they've done it again. Say hey to Ryan Shea.

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52.661 - 71.652 Michael McHenry

We're tied three. Barzel and Brazzo ahead to Manta. He scores! The Penguins in front for the first time tonight. Able to push it free to Brazill. Then Mantha, backhand, scores! Anthony Mantha putting on a show! No! Feeds the moment! And it's 5-3 Pittsburgh!

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72.982 - 100.182 Sean Gentile

I sure hope you didn't blink during the second period because eight total goals on both sides eventually led to eight goals for the Penguins last night in an absolute statement victory on the island. against the New York Islanders, and putting them much closer to getting back to the playoffs for the first time in four years. Austin Bechsel with you.

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100.282 - 120.392 Sean Gentile

It's the Pump and Joe Show with Harry Callis behind the glass producing. There is no Bob. Today, of course, you know, Bob is typically not in with us on Tuesdays. Joe woke up not feeling well today. Joe was expressing yesterday how he was feeling a little bit under the weather and unfortunately got worse for Joe today.

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120.533 - 135.753 Sean Gentile

So listen, our guy, all the best and hoping things are going to be okay for him and he can have a speedy recovery. So it's me and Callis behind the glass. Harry, I am honestly very excited for this. I think we're going to have a lot of fun.

135.873 - 136.634 Donnie Football

Why are you excited?

136.654 - 148.187 Sean Gentile

I think Doran put the odds of us going at each other's throats at 30 minutes. I feel like we're going to definitely be able to break down that barrier and have a great show.

148.507 - 151.771 Joe Starkey

You think so? I do. I'm only going to be here for half the time, I think.

152.051 - 153.934 Sean Gentile

Yes, I think Donnie will replace you.

Chapter 2: Why is the Penguins' recent performance significant?

303.84 - 342.63 Sean Gentile

He was the one that put the Penguins in front for good. Down 2-0. They go on an 8-1 differential. So for a team that was projected to finish right around the bottom of the NHL standings, if you look at the little playoff predictor wheel that people like to put out there on social media, the Penguins now have an 84% chance to make the playoffs. This win convinced me that they are going to do it.

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343.505 - 371.166 Sean Gentile

without Geno, with a goaltender situation that I still think is a little bit shaky, who do you go with tonight against Detroit? And the numbers are, if the Penguins win this game, in regulation, because Detroit's a team that Pens are battling for a wildcard spot, if they were to fall out of the Metro race, with the Islanders and with the surging Blue Jackets,

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372.175 - 405.59 Sean Gentile

If the Penguins beat the Red Wings in regulation tonight, that percentage jumps up to 92%. You can pack up your things, get ready to roll, and book those playoff tickets. Games 3, 4, and 6, maybe even games 1, 2, 5, and 7, are coming to Pittsburgh. I was impressed by the way they responded, by the way they bounced back.

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406.232 - 431.987 Sean Gentile

And for somebody who has doubted this team for a large portion of this year, yeah, I have. I've wondered if a stretch of Mantha, Brazil, Waltherspoon, the Nolacharis of the world, Ben Kindles 18. Okay, when does the dam break? And I don't think that's unrealistic. It's not like this is one of the most talented teams in the NHL. Sid's older, still great.

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432.287 - 460.211 Sean Gentile

Malkin's older, still hasn't been playing very well. Letang, not. We can have a Letang conversation in a little bit. But Eric Carlson's playing his best hockey in a decade since his Ottawa Senators days when he almost willed Ottawa to an Eastern Conference final victory over the Penguins. And right now, looking at staring down the barrel of a 92% chance of making the playoffs.

460.531 - 480.432 Sean Gentile

If they beat the Red Wings in overtime, it's 91%. If they lose to the Wings in overtime, still take a point, 84%. If they lose to the Wings in regulation, it drops a little bit, still 75%. And the way that the schedule has played out and will continue to play out

481.222 - 507.068 Sean Gentile

Look, after they got beat down by the Stars and Colorado got them good after they went to their barn and beat them 7-2, you could see some wins on the horizon. You get the Red Wings at home. Tampa Bay's a little beaten up. You get Florida in a back-to-back at home. It's a little strange, but you get them on a Saturday and a Sunday, and they're not going to make the playoffs.

507.489 - 539.342 Sean Gentile

How much into it will they be? They're last in their own division. Followed by the Devils, they're not good. The Caps twice, home and home. And at the St. Louis Blues. Are you like me at 4-1-2, 9-2-8, 93-70? And looked at that game and said, whoa. If they would have went to New York and just took a point, I would have been content. I would have been happy. You're able to keep pace.

539.862 - 567.642 Sean Gentile

you're able to put yourself in a pretty solid situation to keep up. But to take two points, you're a point up on the Islanders. There's a game in hand there. You're now two up on Columbus. You're now four up on Ottawa. And you're four up on the Wings. If you beat Detroit, in a way...

Chapter 3: What are the implications of injuries on the Penguins' playoff chances?

617.025 - 655.373 Sean Gentile

One of the best months from a Penguins defenseman since Paul Coffey, truly. 4-1-2, 9-2-8, 93-70. My enthusiasm for the Penguins right now really is at the highest level that it can be because of where they sit in the Metro standings. Game in hand on the Islanders. Tied with Columbus, still up two points. And maybe the schedule really isn't as bad as we were initially making it out to be.

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655.433 - 697.818 Sean Gentile

The next question is, who starts a net tonight? Do you go right back to Shelov's or do you give the net to Stuart Skinner? Do you try to make sure That you continue to keep this rotation going, back and forth they go, and in a way, continue with the momentum that you've been having built up because of the way your goaltenders are playing. 4-1-2, 9-2-8, 93-70.

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698.539 - 704.447 Sean Gentile

Let's go to Paul in Washington to chime in. Paul! Paul! What's up?

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705.187 - 732.092 Austin Bechtold

Oh, same old, same old, buddy. How are you? I'm good, man. What's on your mind? I'm excited. Well, what I'm excited about is hearing you and Nicholas Harry Callis together. I think you'd make a good team together for one day soon when you get your own show. I mean... Hey, Joe's been out of the office a lot lately. You've got to take advantage of these opportunities that you have, my friend.

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732.112 - 740.099 Sean Gentile

Well, Joe's not feeling well today, Paul, and I hope that he has the best nap that he could possibly have to be back tomorrow.

740.119 - 743.022 Donnie Football

Oh, it's not our fault. He's sick. This is our opportunity. Paul's right.

743.042 - 747.266 Sean Gentile

No, Harry, he blamed me for half the show yesterday saying it was my fault.

747.286 - 754.532 Austin Bechtold

This is your opportunity. This is your opportunity, and you guys have a great show, and I'm listening anxiously to

754.782 - 779.203 Austin Bechtold

for all the rips you can give on your favorite guy in the morning paul do you have any penguin any penguin takes here paul or just just chime in the pleasantries well i i didn't know i was going to get on air right away like that but i hope they make the playoffs i mean you got a lot of high price stars on that team i think you got to go with the hot hand i mean that's

Chapter 4: How are the Penguins' players performing this season?

1001.471 - 1020.955 Sean Gentile

I think with our depth and the way we're playing, we can make a pretty good run into the playoffs. The only thing I'm a little worried about is our goaltending. So I keep hearing talks about Miroslav coming up, and I don't think that would happen. But do you think – I guess my real question is, do you think if Seeloff and Skinner kind of just –

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1021.762 - 1026.668 Sean Gentile

keep giving up three-plus goals if there's even a hint that he could be brought up.

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1026.688 - 1046.773 Sean Gentile

I think that there should, Marty, and I appreciate the call because, look, if you're not going to have a consistent goaltender that you can rely on every single game, and you're in the middle of a playoff series, and let's say Shilovs is the one that gets the net first, and hypothetically they're playing, let's just say the Blue Jackets,

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1048.171 - 1068.88 Sean Gentile

What if he allows five goals in that first game against the Blue Jackets? Do you go right to Skinner? What if Skinner then responds with giving up four goals himself? Who do you go back to? Who do you ride there? Once you get to the playoffs, you need to have somebody established. Pick a team.

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1069.94 - 1101.069 Sean Gentile

that has had a goaltending tandem that has been able to just consistently flip in and out, go back and forth like they would do during the regular season, maybe like a 60-40 split, and it worked in the postseason. It doesn't happen in the Stanley Cup playoffs. You ride hot goaltenders. The only instance that I can think of is Murray, Fleury, 17 and 16. But a lot of that was just due to injuries.

1102.01 - 1120.668 Sean Gentile

Who was the healthy goaltender at the time when Murray was hurt? Here comes Fleury. And those two at the time were both elite goaltenders. Matt Murray as a rookie, Stanley Cup. Matt Murray, second year, Stanley Cup. Fleury obviously been there, done that guy. Had struggled in the playoffs previously to that.

1121.969 - 1150.872 Sean Gentile

But when his number was called upon and they truly needed him, he provided everything you could possibly ask for and more. Up the Top is presented by J.P. Roofing and Siding. Your thoughts at 412-928-9370. We have a fun giveaway coming up next. We have a question to pose. The best call will win two tickets to the night before with Jason Aldean. But first, here's Brandon in McKeesport.

1150.892 - 1155.178 Sean Gentile

Hi, Brandon. Hey, what's going on, guys? I'm good, man. What's on your mind?

1156.171 - 1174.881 Austin Bechtold

So last night I was watching the game, and when all these young guys, it seems like they got real aggressive and charged to the front of the net. I like that they're doing that. They're not being lethargic. They're not going back on Diener, staying real strong, being aggressive. And I think all these young guys have maybe added a spark to fit in Diener. What do you guys think?

Chapter 5: What were the key takeaways from McCarthy's media availability?

4707.344 - 4720.927 Sean Gentile

Biggest takeaway from McCarthy's media availability today was? It's kind of interesting. We were all over the place. We asked about a bunch of questions. We had two sessions with him because the local had one with him yesterday, too.

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Chapter 6: How does McCarthy evaluate the quarterback position?

4721.468 - 4744.973 Sean Gentile

And we kind of talked a lot yesterday more about quarterbacks and his evaluation process. I will say, I think the biggest thing I learned this week about McCarthy was how he evaluated the quarterback position. The physical tools matter more than anything. Big size, big hands, long arms. You know, you need to play in the cold. You need to play in the winter of Pittsburgh. That is a big thing.

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4744.993 - 4759.98 Sean Gentile

It's going to be different than what you saw in Dallas. I do think one of the big takeaways from the press conference today, and it really has been, you know, all throughout the offseason, is I just do not think this Will Howard stuff is smoke. I think they're completely real about it.

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4760.361 - 4779.641 Sean Gentile

You know, he praised Will Howard effusively today, and Mike DeFavre did a great job asking him, you know, what does he need to improve upon? And he said winning from the pocket and, you know, processing defenses and all of that, the hardest part of playing the position, but he's got all the physical traits and he wouldn't have been a sixth-round pick if McCarthy were there.

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4779.721 - 4797.043 Sean Gentile

I think that's one of these takeaways where just around the quarterback position is, you know, they clearly think that they have a very good developmental prospect on their hands already, Will Howard. But also, I think they're going to look for another one. McCarthy basically said as much yesterday that he would be very interested probably in a mid-round quarterback.

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4797.463 - 4799.065 Sean Gentile

So I think you're probably going to see –

Chapter 7: What are the implications of drafting a quarterback this year?

4799.281 - 4808.418 Sean Gentile

pretty well-rounded quarterback room. If it's Aaron Rodgers coming back, you're probably still going to see him draft another one in the middle round somewhere. But doesn't that just completely contradict what he just said, Nick?

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4808.798 - 4829.552 Sean Gentile

If he believes in Will Howard so much and he thinks he's this great quarterback that might be the answer for the Steelers' future, why would they draft a quarterback in the middle rounds that, at least from... Maybe a narrative perspective or people that are even in the draft room might say, hey, we drafted this guy in the third round or the fourth round.

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4829.933 - 4850.702 Sean Gentile

We're not going to have him start or play more over the guy that is maybe the third string quarterback right now and the one that was drafted in the sixth round? That doesn't make much sense to me. So here's the thing. I think that Michael McCarthy and really Omar Khan believe in the theory of throwing as many resources at a position of weakness as possible.

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4851.205 - 4872.195 Sean Gentile

And so you get more bites at the apple. It's just kind of if you have a higher quantity, you have a bigger chance of potentially just hitting on one of them. That's kind of where I think they're coming from here is why have one when you can have two? And really what I think people maybe aren't thinking enough about is is Mason Rudolph vulnerable?

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Chapter 8: What are the expectations for the Steelers' quarterback situation moving forward?

4872.436 - 4889.195 Sean Gentile

I think that's maybe one of the takeaways here is, you know, when we talk about quarterbacks this year, it's all about Rodgers. It's all about Will Howard. It's all about, you know, the prospects in the 26th class. We don't hear a lot of Mason Rudolph talk. And I understand, you know, we know what he is. But I do think there's a real possibility.

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4889.235 - 4906.137 Sean Gentile

They draft someone in the middle of the round, and you're back with Sir Howard in the rookies. Like, I think that is a wholly likely scenario that could absolutely happen. Rudolph's going to have to battle for his spot. And so that's one thing to think about. You know, it's not like he's a roster loss. And so what I think that they're kind of hitting at here is,

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4906.657 - 4923.259 Sean Gentile

If you can develop two guys and you like two guys in there, maybe one of them hits, maybe neither of them do. But we have 12 – you know, they have 12 draft picks. And I think that's one thing that they talk a lot about this week is there are so many draft picks that they have that they can hit on so many different needs. And quarterback's one of them.

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4923.279 - 4945.016 Sean Gentile

I think that they feel like they would be remiss to not take a dark day on somebody with one of those picks. And so that's kind of the philosophy is the quantity of picks you have, but also – having more bites at the apple at that position gets you a likelihood, a higher likelihood of fixing that position or finding someone that maybe can slot in there.

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4945.036 - 4964.74 Sean Gentile

So that's always something to think about. You know, good teams, the 49ers did this a lot, you know, before Brock Purdy came along where they would just take guys late in the draft, the quarterback and Purdy hit. It's happened sometimes. And so I think that's a philosophy that they've kind of taken on. That's why they would draft him. Nick Farabaugh of PennLive joining us.

4964.78 - 4983.863 Sean Gentile

Listen to the Poppin' Joe Show on demand. Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Sean Gentile of The Athletic coming up in 20 minutes to talk Penguins Islanders from last night and Penn's Red Wings tonight. So, Nick, did McCarthy say anything about where he would have drafted Will Howard? Did he expound upon this? Like, I just don't understand.

4983.843 - 5003.825 Sean Gentile

how Mike McCarthy has this love affair for this quarterback, and Sean McVay didn't. Like, McVay, wouldn't he have taken him in the fifth round and just be a backup? Or Kyle Shanahan and said, ooh, we got such great value out of Brock Purdy in the seventh round. Maybe we can see a similar thing with Will Howard that quarterback guru Mike McCarthy sees. That's what I don't understand.

5004.726 - 5021.257 Sean Gentile

Yeah, I mean, he said if, you know, I was around, he wouldn't have been around in the fifth or sixth round, so that... It kind of leads me to believe he would have taken him in the fourth, which is kind of where everyone thought he would have gone during the draft. I think everyone thought he was going to go in the fourth round. I don't blame him for thinking that.

5021.377 - 5036.158 Sean Gentile

I thought that Will Howard was about a fourth-round prospect when I watched him. And so it seems like that's where you would take him. And that's right around where you take a guy that you want to develop and see if they can become something. Maybe they become a backup. Maybe they become more. But that's kind of where...

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