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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
And he went to a fairly small prep school too. It's not like he was facing the best of the best necessarily either. And at showcases, when he was facing better pitching, he showed all the tools that the hitting wasn't great.
It was a real question of could he hit real quality pitching like you're going to see basically every night in pro ball, at least in terms of quality of stuff or even just pure velocity. And I've mentioned a few times that He does have that arm bar. I can't do it and probably stay in the video here, but his hands are so far back, he almost locks that elbow.
It's really unusual for hitters to do that and have even the success that he's had. I've just kind of given up and been like, doesn't matter.
Because it hurts your barrel control or it hurts your hit tool, right? It's okay for power, but it's bad for hit tool, right?
Yes. You're going to be longer to the ball. So you may obviously generate even more speed as you're getting to the ball, but you are now much longer. And guys who are there, it is, I mean, I say lock. Obviously it's not truly locked, but just try it, right? Try to actually straighten your arm completely and then essentially release to start a normal swing path, you lose time.
You are less flexible at that point. You just see very few, not zero, but very few big leaguers who do do that and have success. The majority of guys who have that will end up having to change it at some point or they will not have success. That is a case where I'm completely comfortable at this point saying he is an outlier. He's so athletic.
His understanding of the strike zone is beyond belief, particularly for a guy coming out of Mississippi high school. To see him do this at low A and then better at high A, which is where I first caught him, and then get a double A. And at that point, you're like, what the hell? What do we have here? Like somebody said, it sounds like you're describing Willie Mays.
I'm like, Willie Mays at shortstop.
It was the last literal, the last two seconds. That was a lot, Bob, but that last part was the key. Willie Mays at shortstop. I didn't know what the hell Keith Law was talking about for a minute there. What's that called, Limits? It's called the Rates and Barrels podcast on The Athletic. But the last little bit was a mouthful. Willie Mays at shortstop.
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Chapter 2: How does Connor Griffin's potential impact Pittsburgh sports?
But what if he doesn't? So what? You stick with him and just go with it. He's going to ultimately be your best player. from a position point of view. He is your best player, I think. If he's everything they say, again, we're talking about a tight race to get into a postseason. To me, that is the goal this year. I'm not going to handicap myself by not playing him at the start.
I don't care for how little or how long. I'm going to play who I think is the best. Let's say he goes down there. I understand what Keith said there, that you never know what you're going to get with preseason. We've seen it in football. We've seen it in baseball. There have been guys who rake it in March and come up and can't do anything in April. However,
If you see the aspects, the parts of his games that you really like and they're there, he hits solid. He may not have a good average, but he hits the ball solidly every time up. I see things. He's ready. Let's go. Bring him out there. Is there such a thing as bringing up somebody too soon in your opinion? Sure, there is. And what's the harm there? What's the harm there?
The harm there that you ā Bury somebody maybe? Hurt their confidence? If you think that little of his confidence, then he's not the player you thought he was. I know, but how long does it take him to rebound if he comes up here and gets buried and then gets sent back and then gets called up? Everyone has to go through adversity.
Would it be easier just to have him take the next step just for a little while? And then make the leap. I'm wondering about that. Bob says no emphatically, and I do hear him. I was saying that as recently as 24 hours ago. Where are you limits on this? Well, that's the other thing for me, too. He's never played in AAA, and I think he only has 21 games in AA. He is an incredible prospect right now.
And as Keith Law said, the best position player prospect potentially is in Stroud. If that is indeed the case... I don't want to rush that and maybe overwhelm him too much because then you're probably putting him fifth in the lineup, a lot of pressure for a 19-year-old.
I would rather ease him in, relatively speaking, not like call him up in August, but ease him in a couple of weeks in AAA, give him a month, call him up in May, get his timing and confidence up where it needs to be, and then call him. And by the way, that's what I think the Pirates will do. Those are two separate things.
We also heard law there say a source told him this is entirely possible that he could come north. And it should be. It should be. I do agree with that. It should be on the table. And regardless of what they do, which I do think they'll do that, and they have every reason to think it'll be the best for him, I also think they think so highly of him. Everyone that you talk to about
Him says he's professionally ready. He has the kind of thick skin necessary to deal with the ups and downs that come with it. Yeah. And so I want to have him up there because I think these games are just as important when you get to August and September. Maybe this is the way to phrase it from my end.
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Chapter 3: What are the implications of Jack Sawinski's assignment?
That was a legitimate debate.
And it wasn't that easy, right?
It was a legit debate. Made the right call. And then some of the signings now. Are we changing our mind on Ben Charrington, Bob? Well, you say the signings. I mean, the trade for Lau to me is going to be a big one. Yeah, the acquisitions, I should say. That deal more than any of these other ones is going to make me think, okay, and then what they do after it.
The problem is we're tying him into Bob Nutting. And by that I mean if he has a budget that he cannot exceed because he just can't exceed it, he's being very much handcuffed if he wants to make a bigger move. So working within the parameters of what he has to deal with, We really don't know what that is. But if it is what we think it is, it's tough to be a GM that way.
It really is because you only have so much money to spend. Which makes it even more incumbent to spend it wisely. And I've called him the worst GM in Pittsburgh sports history. But I have to say, you win with stars. And if you just got a generational talent with the ninth pick. That changes a lot. And if they win, if they win this year, I'm more than happy to alter my opinion on Ben Charrington.
Well, you're right. He picked Skeens. He picked Griffin. He also picked Davis. We've been talking about Davis as a 1-1. Chandler. Chandler too. That's a good, well, we'll see how that goes, but I like that pick. There's going to be hits and misses all the way. I don't care who you are, what sport you are as a GM, but it's ultimately a bottom line business.
The results have to be the number one issue that you deal with. Yeah. And forget all the other things that go with it. Forget the roster, what you can do with the roster based on your limited amount of money you can spend. You still have to figure out ways to do it. And if you don't, the bottom line is what you are. And right now they've been a perennial last place team.
Hopefully this year that changes. I was kind of hoping that the situation with Charrington would have been that he drafts and develops partly some of these pieces for the next general manager to be able to take over that can finally put it all together. So my thoughts on him have changed a little bit to the positive end. I like what they've done this offseason.
I wonder how much of a nudge there might have been from the Major League Baseball to have that happen. But yeah, I'm thinking highly of of Charrington now compared to previously. Not great. I'm not forgetting the past six years, though. I'm not erasing that. Me neither. And it's incumbent on him to win now. It is. It's time. This is the year.
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Chapter 4: How do the Pirates' recent moves affect their future?
All aboard. Let's go with the Limitless Express. That will definitely be added into the introduction. Thank you, Bob. What do we got? Bob, could I interest you in a wide receiver that is available on the market now? According to Adam Schefter, Miami is releasing eight-time Pro Bowl wide receiver Tyreek Hill.
He will turn 32 at the start of next month, recovering from a dislocated knee and a torn ACL, but he's going to be a free agent. If you're the Steelers, do you sign him? For me, it would be a no. I would prefer getting somebody in the draft who could be young, aggressive, come in and play, and also there are other free agents out there. So I would probably say no to that, Joe. Hard no.
Hard no to this. A dislocated knee and a torn ACL?
No.
And he's going to be 32. I mean, some of the off the field stuff with him has been pretty bad. But listen, if I think it's OK that the Pirates have Ozuna, then that part of it, I guess if he was still Tyreek Hill, I'd have to overlook and say, listen, if he's available to work, then I guess given their dire straits, I'd sign him. This is more about football.
I want to go young here and draft a receiver and develop a guy and look elsewhere. This is a hard no limits. You? I would be interested in what it's going to cost. If it's a one-year deal because Miami is still going to be on the books for a decent amount of his contract, I believe.
If it's only going to be a minimum deal or a $5 million deal for Hill, maybe even $10 million, I would consider it, but only as my wide receiver three. He should not answer the wide receiver two problems for the Steelers. I just think it's, as Joe said, there are too many things that I don't like about how his career has unfolded. Certainly he was terrific during his prime.
When you make eight-time Pro Bowl and we put up the kind of numbers and speed he put up, especially with Patrick Mahomes, which got him to Miami. Uh, that's fine, but I don't think you're getting this version of him. So I'm not, especially with all these injuries piling up.
Um, I think I would rather go younger and try to figure out in a very deep draft for wide receivers where my next move would be. And there are also other free agent guys out there who I think could be more productive than him. Next. All right. Next up on the docket, Bob Smyzik, your former colleague, Joe, were you at the Post Gazette at the same time as Mr. Smyzik? I don't think so. Okay.
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Chapter 5: What are the key statistics compared between McCutcheon and Parker?
Four. Okay. Parker had one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine. That's your deciding vote right there if you have to pick one over the other, right? To me, Parker was the better player. I think Bob would admit to that as well. I think he would. I don't want to speak for Bob Smizek. Perhaps we could have him on the show. But he has raised my eyebrows.
McCutcheon's best home run year, how many? It would have been, I mean, his was not known really as a home run guy, but 31 in 2012 was the total number. How many times did he get 30? That was it. That was it one time.
Chapter 6: How do injuries impact player performance and team dynamics?
Parker got 30, 34, 31, so three different times. Not a huge difference. His high RBIs for McCutcheon was what? It was only 96 that 2012 year as well, and he also matched that in 2015. So he never got 100 RBIs. Parker did five different times, including 125. He led the league as a 34-year-old in Cincinnati. Cincinnati year, that was amazing what he was able to do over there.
How many batting titles for McCutcheon? none two for parker so how many walks did parker have mccutchen had 1183 683 and walks so i mean i had to have helped mccutchen's on base comparing the two yes and he had a good eye there's no question parker against left-hander sometimes was like a fish out of water swinging at steve carlton stuff in the dirt how many gold gloves from mccutchen
He has just one. So, I mean, you're talking about a guy with two batting titles, three gold gloves, MVP votes in what we say nine different years. We're talking about a better player, period. How many silver sluggers did Parker win? Silver sluggers?
Chapter 7: What strategies are discussed for the upcoming trade deadline?
I don't think they had that back then. Did they even have that? No, I don't think so. McCutcheon won four, five-time All-Star. I bet you if you had to do it during his day, he'd have nine. How much do you think the Colmena Award is going to factor in for McCutcheon? Seven All-Stars for Parker. Parker was the better player, period. How many 200-hit seasons for McCutcheon? None.
194 is the most he topped out at in 2012. Parker had 215 one year. He's just the better player. Now, the cumulative stats are interesting. They are.
Chapter 8: How is curling perceived as a sport and what are the experiences shared?
But Parker was the better player with the better case, period, in my mind. Yeah, I agree with that. And honestly, if you just, without telling me anything about these numbers we've just discussed, if you just said off the top of your head, Parker McCutcheon, who's a better player, I'd say Parker. And that's no disrespect to McCutcheon.
It's just that Parker was doing things at a time when they really needed his bat to be what it was to become a championship team in the 70s. I think McCutcheon's consistency also pretty significant. Like when he played for Philadelphia, 27 home runs in 2021. I mean, that's a pretty good number as a 33-year-old, 34-year-old. Oh, he's an all-time guy for the Pirates. There's no question about that.
Now consider that, as you said, as a 34-year-old in Cincy, Parker led the league in doubles with 42, led the league in RBIs with 125, and hit 34 home runs and batted 312 and finished second as the MVP. So then why do you think the numbers are so close on a lot of different categories? How many years for McCutcheon? 17 for McCutcheon. You talked about the walks.
That definitely influences the on-base percentage. The walks help with the on-base, yeah. But still, the home runs are very close. McCutcheon played 22, 62 games so far. That's if he doesn't play 18. So Parker played about 240 more games. But I think I've demonstrated that he has the better resume, have I not? Yeah. How much do you value war? Wins above replacement.
McCutcheon was an eight-war player in 2013. I don't even see that here on baseball reference. And overall, his career, I bet, was better, too. He had a better war than Dave Parker. Far left side, Joe, right by where it says what league they played in. Right in between. Oh, yeah, okay. All right. Well, it's not an end-all, be-all stat for me, but it's a curious one. Here's a key factor.
It's hard to have a huge war. And I know McCutcheon was a DH in these last three years, I think, of his career. But Parker was a DH. Well, Parker was only a DH one, two, three, four, five years. But he had minus wars every year, even though he was still hitting. I don't know. I guess I don't.
To me, tell me about batting titles, MVP votes, 200-hit seasons, years leading the league in different categories, gold gloves, 3-1. Let's talk about all of that. I agree that Parker's the better player, but I think the question also here that it's an enhancement for McCutcheon for where he should be considered for the Hall of Fame.
Like, I don't know if he'll ever get in on the writer's ballot, but maybe a committee will put him in at some point down the line like Parker was. Like, Parker was snubbed for a long time. For sure. I mean... Yeah, I hate to see when people go in posthumously. I just... I don't think McCutcheon's a Hall of Famer myself. I think he's a borderline case. I think he's borderline.
I think we've both thought that for a long time. Borderline Hall of Famer. Certainly one of the best in the history of the franchise. Now, go look at Harold Baines. Go look up Harold Baines' numbers, O Limitless. He's also the guy we go to all the time when you want to compare. He got in and... How did he get in? That was a Veterans Committee. It was a Veterans Committee vote.
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