The Quiet Light Podcast
Activity Overview
Episode publication activity over the past year
Episodes
Centurica Trades Hands — How the Deal Went Down
12 Jul 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Nate Ginsburg is an entrepreneur, investor, and CEO of Centurica, a premium provider of buy-side due diligence services for online acquisitions. For t...
Tips From an EXITpreneur Who's Sold $150M in Products
05 Jul 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Fernando Campos is the Co-founder of MarketplaceOps, a leading Amazon strategy firm that delivers growth to best-in-class CPG brands. His agency lever...
The Biggest Tax Mistakes People Make — and Much More
28 Jun 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Tim Nelson is the CEO at AVASK Accounting & Business Associates, an international firm of accountants and tax experts with a well-reputed specialism i...
Boost Revenue By 600% With Post Purchase Shipping Notifications
21 Jun 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Kiril Kirilov is the CEO and Co-founder of Rush, a Shopify shipment software that automates the shipment tracking process on all fronts. Rush helps me...
How to Dropship From China Using Influencers
14 Jun 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Alex Fedotoff is the Founder and CEO of eCommerce Scaling Secrets and the founder of several e-commerce brands that he scaled to seven and eight figur...
Social Media DMs: The Future of Customer Service
07 Jun 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Kristina Muntean is the Manager of Strategic Partnerships at Gorgias, an integrated helpdesk for e-commerce brands. Gorgias is on a mission to help br...
How To Cut Your Paid Advertising in Half and Boost Revenue
24 May 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Michael Brenner is the CEO of Marketing Insider Group, a content marketing agency focused on increasing ROI and generating leads and sales. He is also...
3 Critical Steps to Selling OFF Amazon
17 May 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Robert Giovannini is the CEO of IronPlane, a full-service e-commerce agency specializing in platform design, development, and digital marketing. While...
Zero % Churn For This AI-Centric Cart Abandonment SaaS
10 May 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Valon Xhafa is the Founder of Behamics, a SaaS company that combines behavioral science and artificial intelligence to reduce cart abandonment. Valon ...
Adopting a Cat to Scaling to 7+ Figures in Revenue Selling Cat Backpacks
03 May 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Emily Miethner is the Co-founder of Your Cat Backpack, a direct-to-consumer and wholesale pet product company specializing in travel products for cats...
Ex-Fireman Turned eCommerce Visionary
26 Apr 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Tim Jordan is a serial entrepreneur and the Co-founder of the Private Label Legion, a community for e-commerce entrepreneurs looking to maximize their...
The Best Sources for Philippine VAs
12 Apr 2022
Contributed by Lukas
John Jonas is the Founder of OnlineJobs.ph, a job board that has brought hundreds of thousands of jobs to virtual workers in the Philippines. He is al...
Cole Humphus Shares How To Rapidly Scale Without Losing Profits or Lifestyle
05 Apr 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Cole Humphus is the Founder of Rapid Scale Group, which helps online course creators, coaches, and consultants increase sales without relying on socia...
Codie Sanchez Talks About "Boring Businesses" and Gaining 1.5M Followers in 24 Months
29 Mar 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Codie Sanchez is the Founder of Contrarian Thinking, the Co-founder of Unconventional Acquisitions, and the Owner of 26 "boring businesses." She is al...
The Top Amazon PPC Tactics From a $4 Million Seller
22 Mar 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Dr. Travis Zigler is an Amazon PPC Coach at Amazon PPC Pros and the Founder of Profitable Pineapple Ads, a consulting agency for Amazon entrepreneurs ...
Revenue and Expense Importing Made Easy (Save Hours — Get Accurate!)
15 Mar 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Jamie McDonald is the CEO at A2X, a company that provides e-commerce accounting without the fuss for Shopify, Amazon, Walmart, eBay, and Etsy business...
Getting Robbed (By An Aggregator) — Not!
08 Mar 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Sumana Sanjeeva is a former banker turned serial entrepreneur and the Owner of Superlative, LLC. She recently worked with Quiet Light to sell her busi...
How To Get Viral On TikTok (Easier Than You Think)
03 Mar 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Ash Krishnaswamy is a Partner at Forge Design, a strategy, branding, and digital design company for e-commerce brands. The Forge team has worked with ...
Increase Your Odds of Success With Any Goal
22 Feb 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Joe Valley is the Co-owner and Director of Brokerage Services at Quiet Light, a business advisory firm that helps online entrepreneurs achieve amazing...
8-Figure EXITpreneur Shares His Journey
15 Feb 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Nathan Hirsch is the CEO at EcomBalance, a bookkeeping service for e-commerce businesses, and the Co-founder of Outsource School, an education platfor...
Fast, Flexible Funding for Marketing, Inventory, Or Hiring From $10K - $5M
08 Feb 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Asher Ismail is the Co-founder of Uncapped, Europe's first revenue-based finance provider. He is also the Founder of InterTech Diversity Forum and a B...
Why Quality Translation Matters For Your Amazon Brand
01 Feb 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Jana Krekic is a certified translator, international speaker, e-commerce consultant, and the Founder of YLT Translations, a seven-figure Amazon transl...
From Van Life to FBA SaaS Entrepreneur
25 Jan 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Conrad Lelubre is a passionate entrepreneur, digital nomad, and the Founder of Intellifox, an Amazon FBA optimization tool. He began his career as a s...
From 6-Figure Purchase to 8-Figure Exit In 30 Months
18 Jan 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Keith Leimbach is the Chief Executive Officer at Portfolio companies and the creator of DINCPIE, where he teaches people how to create diversified inc...
The Future of Walmart.com
11 Jan 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Tomer David owns two Amazon FBA brands and is an expert and a consultant for e-commerce entrepreneurs. He is a YouTuber for his channel called Sourcin...
2021 — A Year in Review
04 Jan 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Mark Daoust is the Founder, President, and CEO of Quiet Light, a business advisory firm that helps online entrepreneurs achieve amazing exits. Since s...
Aerial Yoga Exit and New Quiet Light Advisor
28 Dec 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Elaine Eason is a Business Advisor at Quiet Light with a passion for entrepreneurship — and a track record to prove it. She began her first venture ...
Shark Tank Alumni Joins the Quiet Light Team
21 Dec 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Pat Yates is a Business Broker at Quiet Light, where he educates and aids entrepreneurs in selling their brands. He is also the President and Owner of...
The Sourcing And Purchasing Hub to Scale Your Business
14 Dec 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Francois Jaffres is the Director of Business Development for Noviland, a third-party sourcing and purchasing hub. Noviland was founded in 2016 with th...
Fireside Chat Results in $6,000,000 Increase in Value
07 Dec 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Joe Valley is the Co-owner and Director of Brokerage Services at Quiet Light, a business advisory firm that helps online entrepreneurs achieve amazing...
Incredible Exit Series: Fishing Magnet 7-Figure Side Hustle
30 Nov 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Clay Copeland is the President of Brute Magnetics and has always been an entrepreneur at heart. As a child, from baseball cards, golf balls, and lemon...
Cash Back King — How to Get Your Share
23 Nov 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Chase Harmer is the Founder and CEO of ProfitPay, the first globally connected Fintech marketplace that unifies banking and business without borders. ...
Humble Guy Does $35,000,000 in Revenue — Part 2
16 Nov 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Ramon Van Meer is the CEO and Founder of Alpha Paw, a leading pet wellness brand that has grown into an eight-figure empire. Alpha Paw has been featur...
Humble Guy Does $35,000,000 in Revenue — Part 1
09 Nov 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Ramon Van Meer is the CEO and Founder of Alpha Paw, a leading pet wellness brand that has grown into an eight-figure empire. Alpha Paw has been featur...
How to Create an Effective Content Development Plan
02 Nov 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Jeff Coyle is the Co-founder and Chief Strategy Officer at MarketMuse, an AI content planning and optimization platform. Jeff is a cross-disciplined, ...
Scroll-Stopping Creative
26 Oct 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Justin Kelsey is the Founder and Chief Experience Officer of VAXA Digital, a digital strategy, advertising, and analytics company for e-commerce brand...
Incredible Exit Series: Taner Hasanoglu Sells His FBA Business
19 Oct 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Taner Hasanoglu is an entrepreneur who successfully scaled and recently sold his Amazon FBA business. He is now an e-commerce and supply chain advisor...
An SBA Buyer May Pay More - How To Prep Your Business
12 Oct 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Stephen Speer is the Founder and CEO of eCommerce Lending and Focal Point Lending. He has over 28 years of experience in the e-commerce lending space ...
Common Accounting Mistakes That Can Hurt Value
05 Oct 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Wayne Richard is the Partner and Director of Global Operations at Bean Ninjas, an accounting firm that equips 7-figure e-commerce entrepreneurs with t...
U.S. Based Amazon Agency Full of Softball Players!
28 Sep 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Jeff Lieber is the CEO of TurnKey Product Management, where he helps brands launch and grow their Amazon sales. Jeff began consulting Amazon businesse...
Every Dollar Has a Job!
21 Sep 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Rocky Lalvani is a Profit First Professional and the Fractional Chief Probability Officer at Profit Comes First, where he helps entrepreneurs and smal...
Amazon Owes You Money
14 Sep 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Eytan Wiener, was the Chief Operating Officer and Co-founder of Quantum Networks, an online retail agency for global brands, and played an integral ...
How Alternative Marketing and Drive Led to 15M in Revenue
07 Sep 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Chris Meade is the Co-founder and Chief Marketing Officer of the world's first four-way volleyball game, CROSSNET. Before CROSSNET, Chris has been inv...
Growing from a Startup to a Half-Billion All-Cash Exit
31 Aug 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Roger Hardy is the Co-Founder, Chairman, and CEO of KITS, one of the world's leading eyewear companies. In 2000, Roger founded an online company, Coas...
How to Leverage Micro-Influencers for Massive Growth
24 Aug 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Paul Benigeri is the Co-founder and CEO of Archive, a software company that automates e-commerce digital marketing workflows. Archive has worked with ...
Want to Grow Any Business? Embrace Negative Feedback
17 Aug 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Mark Thompson is the Co-founder of PayKickstart, a reimagined payment and affiliate platform that enables vendors and digital publishers to sell their...
How to Launch 26 Content Sites in 90 Days with Ewen Finser
10 Aug 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Ewen Finser is the Founder and CEO of Venture 4th Media, a firm that develops and transacts digital media assets for clients in a wide variety of esta...
The Magic of Bundling Products for More Margin
03 Aug 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Kristin Ostrander is an Amazon FBA business owner, speaker, teacher, author, e-commerce specialist, and entrepreneur. She is the Founder of Mommy Inco...
How to Find The Right Business and Make Sure It's a Good Investment
27 Jul 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Chris Yates is the Co-owner and COO of Centurica, a due diligence services firm that helps e-commerce entrepreneurs avoid scams, fraud, and unreliable...
The Biggest Mistakes You Make with Your Amazon Listings
20 Jul 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Fahim Naim is the Founder and CEO of eShopportunity, a leading full-service Amazon consulting agency that has helped hundreds of consumer product bran...
Magento vs. Shopify — What's the Right Choice for Your Business?
13 Jul 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Guillaume Le Tual is an entrepreneur and multimedia technologist with more than 15 years of experience in web design, digital marketing, and the Magen...
All-In-One: Product Design, Development and Manufacturing
29 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Zack Leonard is the COO, Founder, and President of Gembah, a company that helps entrepreneurs and small businesses navigate the product development li...
What Would You Do If You Were Fearless?
22 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
David Wood is the Founder of Focus.ceo, a coaching company that helps business owners double their revenue by setting clear goals and removing distrac...
The EXITpreneur's Playbook — Part 2: Structuring the Deal
15 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Joe Valley is the Co-owner and Director of Brokerage Services at Quiet Light, a business advisory firm that helps online entrepreneurs achieve amazing...
The EXITpreneur's Playbook — Part 1
08 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Joe Valley is the Co-owner and Director of Brokerage Services at Quiet Light, a business advisory firm that helps online entrepreneurs achieve amazing...
Multi-Market Dashboard for Advanced Sellers
01 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Paul Sonneveld is the Co-founder and CEO of MerchantSpring, a next-generation sales and analytics software platform for professional sellers and agenc...
Never Run Out of Inventory Again
25 May 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Chelsea Cohen is an Amazon seller, copywriting expert, and the Co-founder of SoStocked and Badass Business Builders. Since launching a physical produc...
A Tax Attorney's Guide to Maximizing Profits and Minimizing Taxes
18 May 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Sharon Winsmith is the Owner and CEO of Winsmith Tax, a full-service tax firm that helps entrepreneurs and businesses maximize profits using a holisti...
Quiet Giants Chapter 4: Leigh Exits for Almost 7 Figures
11 May 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Leigh Huynh is the Founder of Amaki Skincare, an organic skincare company that champions all-natural ingredients and clean beauty standards. After sta...
99% of 10-Figure Sellers Do This — Only 10% Admit It
04 May 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Izabela Hamilton is the Founder and CEO of RankBell, a white-glove, done-for-you Amazon concierge that helps sellers launch and rank campaigns, boost ...
How to Master HARO for Free PR and Easy SEO Wins
27 Apr 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Greg Heilers is the Sorcerer in Residence at Sourcery, a HARO pitching platform for editorial link building that helps business leaders increase brand...
Save 2-3% on Imported Inventory and Cross-Border VAs
20 Apr 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Ryan Cramer is the Affiliate Marketing Manager at PingPong, a revolutionary payment service provider for cross-border e-commerce sellers around the wo...
Gino Wickman, Founder of EOS, Talks About Entrepreneurial Leap
13 Apr 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Gino Wickman is the creator of the Entrepreneurial Operating System (EOS), a practical method that has helped thousands of entrepreneurs achieve great...
How to Scale Without Losing Your Mind
06 Apr 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Yoni Kozminski is the Founder and CEO of Escala, an affordable, boutique process improvement and digital transformation consulting firm for Amazon and...
How to Save 20-60% on Your Supplement COGS
30 Mar 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Sean Ross is a manufacturing expert who works for TWS Nutrition, a nutritional supplement contract manufacturing aggregator with more than 40 years of...
How to Open AND Manage Multiple Seller Accounts with My Amazon Guy
23 Mar 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Steven Pope is the Founder of My Amazon Guy, an 18-person Amazon seller consulting agency based in Atlanta, Georgia. My Amazon Guy uses PPC, SEO, desi...
A Due Diligence Professional Shares His War Stories
16 Mar 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Elliott Holland is the Founder and Managing Director of Guardian Due Diligence, a boutique firm that supports ETA, acquisition entrepreneurs, and self...
Why Trademarks Matter - And How To Get Yours
09 Mar 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Steven Weigler is the Founder and Managing Partner of EmergeCounsel, a company that specializes in the protection of business assets and intellectual ...
The Rise of the Aggregator
02 Mar 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Brad Wayland is a Business Advisor at Quiet Light, a brokerage firm that helps online business owners achieve amazing exits. As a successful entrepren...
Selling to an FBA Roll-Up Company? Do This and Earn More Money
23 Feb 2021
Contributed by Lukas
David Newell is an M&A Advisor at Quiet Light, a business advisory firm that helps online entrepreneurs achieve amazing exits. His main areas of exper...
Why is the Amazon Training Space So Sleazy?
16 Feb 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Adam Hudson is a serial entrepreneur and a highly regarded Amazon thought leader. Currently, he is the Co-founder of Reliable Education, a company tha...
Increasing the Value of an Amazon Business 10x in 2 Years
09 Feb 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Mihkel Moosel is an experienced entrepreneur and Amazon growth consultant who has successfully built three 7-figure businesses on Amazon and sold more...
Tools to Boost Rankings and Reviews
02 Feb 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Troy Johnston is the Co-founder of Seller.Tools, an optimization platform for Amazon sellers. Seller.Tools provides a full suite of cutting-edge tools...
Amazon Funding Partners…No Interest, No Credit Report, No Personal Guarantees
26 Jan 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Don Henig is the Co-founder of AccrueMe, a financial technology company that provides funding and support to small and medium-sized Amazon businesses....
Quiet Giants - Janine Do and Brian Lejeune's 7-Figure Exit Story
19 Jan 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Janine Do and Brian Lejeune are both members of Blue Ribbon Mastermind, a mastermind group for high-earning e-commerce sellers. As pharmacists-turned-...
What It's Really Like to Bootstrap a SaaS Business & Sell to Private Equity
12 Jan 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Jon Hainstock is a SaaS entrepreneur with decades of experience. He recently sold and exited his software business, ZoomShift, a tool that helps small...
Using Outside Traffic to Amazon to Boost Rankings & Trends for 2021
05 Jan 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Michael Jackness is the President and CEO of Terran, an e-commerce conglomerate that owns and operates seven-figure brands and content sites. Through ...
2020 In Review & 2021 Outlook
29 Dec 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Joe Valley is the Co-owner and Director of Brokerage Services at Quiet Light Brokerage, a business advisory firm that helps online entrepreneurs achie...
Why List Price Multiples Don't Matter as Much as You Think
22 Dec 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Joe Valley is the Co-owner and Director of Brokerage Services at Quiet Light Brokerage, a business advisory firm that helps online entrepreneurs achie...
8 Resources to Build (Or Buy Then Build) A More Valuable Online Business
15 Dec 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Steve Chou is a serial entrepreneur and the Founder of My Wife Quit Her Job LLC, an educational blog and podcast that teaches entrepreneurs how to sel...
Your One Source For Amazon Events, Meetups, Webinars, and Training
08 Dec 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Augustas Kligys, known by his sobriquet "Amazon Summits Guy," is the Founder of Orange Klik, an informational platform that organizes virtual summits,...
The Origin Story: How Quiet Light Began
01 Dec 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Joe Valley is the Co-owner and Director of Brokerage Services at Quiet Light Brokerage, a business advisory firm that helps online entrepreneurs achie...
How to Get Your Brand Mentioned in Entrepreneur, Fast Company, and Other Well-Known Media Outlets
17 Nov 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Nick Wolny is a Business and Technology Writer and a Content Marketing Strategist for entrepreneurs. He is the Founder of Hefty Media Group, an LGBTBE...
BuyBoxer's CEO Shares Lessons from $300,000,000 in Amazon Sales
10 Nov 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Scott Needham is the Co-founder and CEO of BuyBoxer, a brand management and marketing agency for Amazon sellers. BuyBoxer manages over 200 brands, boa...
How to Leverage Your Assets and Boost Profit - Without IP
03 Nov 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Bob Serling is a 30-year marketing and licensing veteran and the Founder of LicensingLab. Through his innovative perspective on marketing and licensin...
Financing Inventory Purchases Through the Kickfurther Crowdfunding Platform
27 Oct 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Sean De Clercq is the CEO of Kickfurther, a successful crowdfunding platform. Throughout his entrepreneurial career, Sean's driving goal has been to c...
Crowdfunding Expert Roy Morejon Has Helped 1000s of Product Owners Raise Funds with Kickstarter Campaigns
20 Oct 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Roy Morejon is the President and Co-founder of Enventys Partners, a product development, crowdfunding, and digital marketing agency. He has helped tho...
How TinySeed Leverages Growth in 23 SaaS Investments
13 Oct 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Rob Walling is an entrepreneur, angel investor, author, international speaker, and host of the Startups for the Rest of Us podcast. Rob is the Co-foun...
Quiet Giant Ramon Van Meer - Just a Regular Guy Shooting for a Billion Dollar Valuation
06 Oct 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Ramon Van Meer is the Founder and CEO of Alpha Paw, a pet-focused company that creates unique, honest products that contribute to the health and happ...
Design Patents & Amazon - A Match Made in Heaven
29 Sep 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Rich Goldstein is the Principal Patent Attorney at Goldstein Patent Law, a boutique law firm dedicated to patent prosecution. In this role, Rich guide...
Get Positive Cashflow More Quickly Through Wholesaling With Ecommerce Expert Dillon Carter
22 Sep 2020
Contributed by Lukas
On this episode of the Quiet Light podcast, we speak with Dillon Carter about his path to launching a wholesale CRM, why he pivoted to a slighted diff...
Taking Your Conversions to the Next Level with CRO Expert Justin Christianson
16 Sep 2020
Contributed by Lukas
On today's episode, we speak with Justin Christianson, the Co-Founder and President of Conversion Fanatics. Conversion Fanatics helps businesses find ...
From Construction Management to a Seven-Figure FBA Exit With Amazon Expert Jon Elder
08 Sep 2020
Contributed by Lukas
On this episode of Quiet Light, we speak with Jon Elder, who had a seven-figure exit and now guides others on their startup journeys. We discuss the s...
How to Use Storytelling to Improve Your Ecommerce Brand With Filmmaker and Entrepreneur Judson Morgan
01 Sep 2020
Contributed by Lukas
On this episode, we speak with Judson Morgan, a Hollywood film producer turned Ecommerce entrepreneur. He is now the Chief Creative Officer of Butter,...
Starting and Scaling an Amazon Business for Exit With FBA Expert Kellianne Fedio
25 Aug 2020
Contributed by Lukas
On this episode of our podcast, we speak with Kellianne Fedio, an Amazon consultant. She discusses selling her previous business for seven figures and...
How to Negotiate a 3PL Contract with E-commerce Expert Jesse Kaufman
18 Aug 2020
Contributed by Lukas
On this episode of the Quiet Light podcast, we have the opportunity to speak with Jesse Kaufman, the CEO and founder of Shipping Tree. Though Amazon s...
Why Email is the Unsung Hero of E-Commerce with Phillip Rivers
11 Aug 2020
Contributed by Lukas
On this episode of the Quiet Light podcast, we talk to Phillip Rivers (not the quarterback). We get into why email is the unsung hero of E-commerce bu...
Buying and Selling Insights with Woz, Quiet Light's Newest Ridiculously Experienced Advisor
04 Aug 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Welcome back to the Quiet Light podcast. Chris Wozniak is the newest member of our team and we thought it would be a great idea to sit down and chat w...
How to Build Out an Accounting System Using Automation with Scott Scharf
28 Jul 2020
Contributed by Lukas
On today's episode, we bring back Scott Scharf to talk about how to build out an ...
When Does a SaaS Business Earn a Revenue-Based Multiplier With David Newell
21 Jul 2020
Contributed by Lukas
On this episode of Quiet Light, David Newell talks about when a SaaS business earns a revenue-based multiplier. David is one of our colleagues who jus...