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The Rest Is Entertainment

Will Ross Kemp Win Celebrity Traitors?

04 May 2026

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Chapter 1: Who are the stars joining the new season of Celebrity Traitors?

1.094 - 12.172 Marina Hyde

The rest is entertainment is presented by Octopus Energy. Admin tends to require a little bit of encouragement. So submitting your meter reading now earns you a spin and the prospect of being quietly rewarded for it.

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12.653 - 19.103 Richard Osman

Yeah, you spin, you can win OctoPoints, which you can spend in the Shoptopus. The Shoptopus. I mean, fair play. Fair play.

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19.083 - 45.968 Richard Osman

whoever refuses a wheel and the opportunity to get something for nothing but it's absolutely one of the mainstays of game shows wheels because it has a randomness to it and i've spent like weeks and weeks sitting just working on the wheel just go okay that's an extra thousand that would be two thousand then you work out how many bad squares there are by the way there's no bad squares on the octopus one but it's a mesmerizing thing so addictive i know watching it you want to keep doing it they slow it down slightly and then when you watch the contestants like lean

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45.948 - 68.074 Richard Osman

in like it's going to make a difference and like lots of things with octopus energy they're very good at gamifying lots of the sort of just normal stuff that you have to do with your energy provider and getting a free spin and winning octopoints it's a very good example of that with octopus you submit your meter reading you get a spin and a chance at octopoints for money off your bill or to spend in the most aptly named shoptopus

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71.176 - 75.746 Marina Hyde

Hello, and welcome to this episode of The Rest Is Entertainment with me, Marina Hyde.

75.806 - 77.971 Richard Osman

And me, Richard Osman. Hello, everyone. Hi, Marina.

78.151 - 79.434 Marina Hyde

Hello, Richard. How are you?

Chapter 2: Why is 'Linger' by the Cranberries experiencing a resurgence?

79.454 - 80.556 Richard Osman

Very well. So nice to see you.

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80.616 - 89.455 Marina Hyde

It is very nice to see you. And I'm very pleased with the timing of our show this week because there was a huge announcement over the weekend, was there not?

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89.502 - 90.483 Richard Osman

Um, yes.

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90.884 - 91.204 Marina Hyde

Yeah.

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91.224 - 101.396 Richard Osman

Celebtrators, that lineup. I was trying to, I was going to do a joke, but come on. Yeah, so we're going to talk our way through that celebrity traitors lineup and Tilly, who is going to win.

101.416 - 116.314 Marina Hyde

Oh my goodness. Okay, you can tell me that. And we're also going to talk about Linger, a 33-year-old song by the Cranberries, which is sort of everywhere at the moment. We're going to talk about when a song blows up like that in that way, sort of how and why it happens.

116.454 - 121.701 Richard Osman

Yep. And also, we are going to get Marina's tip on who's going to be the new Bond.

Chapter 3: What factors contribute to a song's sudden popularity?

121.741 - 125.346 Marina Hyde

Yeah, just sell shares and whoever I say, but I have got a tip.

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125.366 - 133.937 Richard Osman

There have been developments. I did my last ever House of Games this week. That was a bit of fun. Oh my God! Did you actually? And I saw Michael Sheen presenting as well.

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133.957 - 135.419 Marina Hyde

Oh, the presenter of Michael Sheen's House of Games.

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135.499 - 136.701 Richard Osman

Yeah, Michael Sheen's House of Games.

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136.961 - 139.725 Marina Hyde

Michael Sheen's House of Games, who is also...

140.06 - 141.642 Richard Osman

In Celebrity Traitors.

141.742 - 147.388 Marina Hyde

The show that is now so big that its casting announcement gets a massive BBC promo.

147.708 - 148.99 Richard Osman

And we can lead our podcast with it.

149.13 - 149.791 Marina Hyde

Yes, yeah.

Chapter 4: Who is the current favorite to become the next James Bond?

158.44 - 181.244 Richard Osman

And it was just after we'd recorded our Breakfast TV thing for our members, you know, our history of Breakfast TV. And there was an unbelievable story about her and Michael Parkinson, David Frost. And afford all being sent each other's salary details. And I said, Angela, that can't have been true. She said, not only was that true, she said, there's so much worse that I could tell you.

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181.284 - 197.622 Richard Osman

I'm not going to tell you everything she said because she said, I recorded everything that happened. She said, I've got tape recordings. I've got notes of everything that happened. If ever I write a book, then I'm going to put all of it in there. So if any publisher's listening, Angela Griffin has all the stuff.

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197.642 - 199.084 Marina Hyde

Can we get Angela Griffin a book deal immediately?

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199.104 - 199.405 Richard Osman

Immediately.

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199.445 - 204.694 Marina Hyde

Because I want to hear, any breakfast TV snake pit is my favourite happy place.

204.875 - 211.746 Richard Osman

Yeah, but for non-members on that, essentially those four big beasts were all sent each other salary details.

Chapter 5: What is taking so long in the Bond casting process?

211.767 - 213.89 Marina Hyde

And that was just one of the mess ups of that show.

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213.91 - 220.101 Richard Osman

Yeah, and their salaries were not the same as each other. I wonder if you can guess which gender was paid an awful lot more than the other one.

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220.081 - 225.591 Marina Hyde

It was the 80s, although even now. Okay, we better get on Celebrity Traitors.

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225.831 - 226.132 Unknown

Yeah.

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226.352 - 237.952 Marina Hyde

Chop me a thesaurus because I'm going to need new words of saying incredible booking. I have to say, shout out to the people, as always, who when this list came out said, there aren't any celebrities on it.

237.972 - 238.353 Unknown

Okay? I know.

238.774 - 250.089 Marina Hyde

I'm so sorry that you don't participate in contemporary entertainment culture. But you don't need to advertise it. Please feel free for us not to hear from you about this. There are celebrities on this list.

250.11 - 252.292 Richard Osman

Yeah, shout out to the Who crew.

Chapter 6: What insights does Marina have about the new Bond candidate?

252.432 - 259.54 Marina Hyde

Oh my God, I can't stand it. There are celebrities on this list and there are some absolute bangers in here.

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259.741 - 267.79 Richard Osman

It's interesting, with 21 people, you start looking through it and you go, okay, that's good. And then you look through it again and you think, oh, I've missed them. There were so many. Yeah, yeah.

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267.77 - 272.278 Marina Hyde

And you think of all the potential alliances and potential buddy movies.

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272.999 - 280.151 Richard Osman

How should we do it? Should we just sort of go through them? Because some people might not know the whole list, but certainly if you do know it, you'll want to know who's going to win.

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280.572 - 281.694 Marina Hyde

There's a lot of comedians.

282.215 - 284.158 Richard Osman

Yes. Too many, I think.

284.223 - 296.48 Marina Hyde

It's interesting that they've put both Rob Becker and Romesh Ranganathan in, who obviously do very, very many things together. But I sort of feel now, light entertainment, it's like, Romesh is now, it's almost like he's one of the building blocks of life itself.

Chapter 7: How do sync deals impact the music industry today?

296.5 - 302.788 Marina Hyde

You know when you're on a planet, they say, well, there is water, so life can be supported. In light entertainment now, it's like, is Romesh on there?

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302.768 - 323.318 Richard Osman

okay life can be supported here's the problem with Romesh is he's brilliant yeah and he's brilliant at everything he does and he's a really really nice guy but yes it's one of those things it has a ubiquity to it I think the interesting thing with Rob and Romesh is they think we'll put them in it's always fun to put a partnership Like a double act or a husband and wife.

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324.079 - 336.96 Richard Osman

I don't think enough people know they're a partnership. I don't think enough people have seen Rob versus Ramesh and those things. So I think it's just two more comics to go with Joe Lycett and James Acaster. All very different comics.

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336.94 - 346.87 Marina Hyde

But I don't... Yeah, they can't do that thing where they make one of them a traitor and one... I think it would... I actually think that's too obvious. Yeah, I can't think... I don't think they can do that thing where they make one the traitor and one not.

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346.89 - 350.833 Richard Osman

But the problem is, because you've got nothing to hold on to in those early weeks, people will assume they've done that.

351.214 - 351.414 Marina Hyde

Yes.

351.454 - 356.759 Richard Osman

Anyway, so it's slightly a hiding to nothing. I mean, Romesh would be delighted to be voted out after a day he's got. He's so busy.

Chapter 8: What predictions are made for the future of Celebrity Traitors?

357.6 - 360.663 Richard Osman

But that is the thing with Romesh. He does do everything, but he does everything well.

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360.803 - 361.163 Unknown

Yeah.

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361.184 - 383.738 Richard Osman

You know, it's... What are you going to do? Acaster will be fascinating. Anyone who has a public image which feels a slightly heightened version of themselves, which I think James slightly does, although it's not a particularly heightened version of himself, I think it's fascinating to see them after a couple of days in that house. I think, you know, the same way that we have with Joe Wilkinson.

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383.718 - 402.439 Richard Osman

But yeah, I think having four male comics there, I think is... I understand why you're not going to say no to James. You're not going to say no to Joe and then the Rob Romish thing as a partnership. But I think actually Joanne McNally might be the most successful of those comics. Yes. Because I think... Fewer people know her. I mean, lots of people do know her.

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402.459 - 409.031 Richard Osman

She's got a lot of profile in the last couple of years. But I think people will really fall in love with her and I think she won't take any nonsense from anyone.

409.091 - 413.058 Marina Hyde

She could be a bit of a dark horse, I think. A bit like, actually, Sharon Rooney. I think she could be a bit of a dark horse.

413.098 - 416.023 Richard Osman

Yes, everyone who meets Sharon Rooney falls in love with her.

416.123 - 418.427 Marina Hyde

Yeah, and I think she could be very, very good.

418.468 - 437.107 Richard Osman

Ingrid, when the list came out, just went, I cannot believe... they've got Sharon Rooney. I was like, yeah, no, I think it's, I think it's good booking. She goes, but why would she do this? It's really, really interesting that she would do that, you know, to write literary novels. And then I said, I think, I think that is Sally Rooney. Oh my God. Yeah.

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