192. Are We On The Brink Of World War III? (Odd Arne Westad)
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That's therestispolitics.com. International tensions are now at a much higher level. What I'm most worried about is some kind of world-class crisis that we cannot foresee at the moment would come along, and then we wouldn't be able to handle it, and we'd end up in war. We are facing a world very similar to 1914, where leaders let events run away with them. China and India are locked in a conflict that is really, really difficult to resolve. I don't think United States or China are particularly well-placed to become the predominant great powers of the future. If you look at a country like India, I think they are much better placed. If we don't start acting now on these kinds of issues, then we could get into really dicey territory very soon.
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How do current global tensions compare to pre-World War I?
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Why are leaders failing to prevent potential conflicts?
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Welcome to The Rest is Policy Leading with me, Alistair Campbell. And with me, Rory Stewart. And today we have with us Odd Arne Vestad, who is a professor at Yale University, but has been a very distinguished professor at many other universities around the world. We're going to be focusing on...
What are the implications of the China-India relationship for global stability?
on his new book, which looks at some very, very powerful questions around whether we might be on the verge of another war, and what lessons we might be able to learn from the lead up not to the Second World War, so much as the First World War, which he's got into a lot. But he's also a very remarkable person. He's a friend of mine. He's a colleague of mine. He is somebody who, as you will observe, not only speaks his own native Norwegian fluently, but fluent English, like Alistair, French and German, but unlike Alistair, also Portuguese, Russian and Chinese. And that made him the author of an extraordinary book that I admired for many, many years on the Cold War, where he was able to do what I think very few people were able to do, which is to look at
The competition between the United States and the Soviet Union right across the world, chapters on what they did in Africa, chapters on what they did in Afghanistan, chapters on what they did in Latin America, bring the whole story together. Ani, thank you very much for joining us today.
It's great to be with you, Rory, Alistair. Looking forward to the conversation.
Can we start with that very, very big question, which you've been wrestling with publicly and presumably privately as well, is it does sort of feel like we are in a very, very dangerous phase of history. And I was reading a piece you wrote in Foreign Affairs magazine in March where where you quoted the British then Foreign Secretary, Edward Gray, writing in his memoirs, in the early months of 1914, the international sky seemed clearer than it had been. Well, the sky doesn't look very clear at the moment, but are we sort of in that very, very dangerous pre-war period?
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–1:10
2
How do current global tensions compare to pre-World War I?
1:10–1:28
3
What unforeseen crises could lead to a world war today?
1:28–1:48
4
Why are leaders failing to prevent potential conflicts?
1:48–2:16
5
What are the implications of the China-India relationship for global stability?
2:16–5:42
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How does Taiwan factor into the risk of a global conflict?
5:42–7:06
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What role does the United States play in the Taiwan situation?
7:06–11:23
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How might Ukraine serve as a flashpoint for great power tensions?
11:23–59:58
Speakers
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