Ann Kaplan Mulholland: Building an Empire with No Excuses (Part 2)
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And welcome back to part two of my conversation with Dr. Anne Mulholland. We dive deep into the tactical aspects of building a personal brand in this era of AI and why it is paramount to become the signal and the noise as a leader if you want to grow an entrepreneurial endeavor. If you enjoyed the first half of this conversation, you are going to love the second half. Here we are, Dr. Anne Mulholland.
Can I ask you about, as I'm listening to your story, and you actually called this out a few minutes ago, it seems to me like a superpower of yours, which seemingly there are quite a few, is your ability to not take yourself seriously while taking your career, your goals, your ambitions very seriously and being very intentional.
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And I think for a lot of people, those two ideas butt heads. They struggle with how to find harmony between them. So how – like as you become more aware of this as a big part of your personality and your success, how have you continued to cultivate that? And how would you recommend to someone who's listening who would like to be that? funny, kind of self-deprecating, have a good time person while still being driven and ambitious and successful? How does someone start to cultivate them in themselves if they feel like they're not there already?
Yeah, that's a really good question. When I'm in a business mode and when I'm in business, I'm always in a business mode, but when I'm in business, you can be mistaken to be a nice person.
when I am working with people and you're in a business or you're doing something I make sure that we are established as a business first so my personality or the humor and all that isn't at that point it can be quick but I have to be careful um It's fun when you see verbal volleyball, but you have to be careful of your audience, especially when you're deciding to work with someone. When I'm hiring people, I have an HR person in between. They do all the criminal record checks. They do all the hard stuff that I don't necessarily do. So I get mistaken to be a nice person. And I'm nice, but I'm not naive. And I know that when I'm in business or when I'm working with people, they're looking at my wallet.
And they're not looking necessarily at me. And so I'm very careful that my contracts are very tight, that I have review, that I have legal contracts that have been designed by lawyers in the jurisdiction I'm doing business in, and everything has a contract. And every time somebody enters any of my homes, they have a non-disclosure agreement. Anytime anyone works with me, they have a non-disclosure agreement as well. Now, I know people, particularly in the U.S., make fun of that, but When you have to be smart in business, there is the Internet. You don't want people posting you coming out of a washroom and because you're no one person or something like that. So I make sure that I establish the business side of everything first.
So that would say on that end of what you were saying is that you. Make sure you're very professional and you're covering your tracks. You don't want to go back later and say, oh, I should have done, should have done. And the reason I do all these things is because I've made the mistake and I should have done, I should have done.
How can humor and ambition coexist in a successful career?
So I have the business side, but the humor and then living your life the way you want to, you need to do the business side first. That's really important. Your humor, you can never make fun of somebody. of something they can't change. So you can make fun of something that someone can change. So make fun of their bow tie. Make fun of something that they can change, but don't make fun of their race. Now, saying that, I joke around with my friends a little bit different. We call it what it is always, and it is funny. But I think that with the internet right now and with everything that goes on, you have to be very careful so you can be taken out of context. I agree with that.
I had a conversation with a guest here on the show maybe a few months ago. We were talking about that and I was like – it was a black dude.
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Chapters
5 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–0:57
2
What tactical aspects of building a personal brand are discussed?
0:57–3:41
3
How can humor and ambition coexist in a successful career?
3:41–6:29
4
What strategies does Ann Kaplan use to establish relationships in business?
6:29–12:15
5
Why is it important to have a strong business structure before personal relationships?
12:15–33:18
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