I Met Charlie Munger and Discovered How Billionaires Really Think
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The reason I run a solo history podcast is because I think the best podcaster I've ever loved is Dan Carlin from Harger History. And so for like fucking years before I did my own podcast, I would fall asleep listening to Dan every night. Almost every night I still fall asleep listening to Dan Carlin. And so I just fell in love. I think there should be way more monologue podcasts. I think it's a huge opportunity.
What do you love about Dan's podcast?
Him.
Just him. His personality, how he talks, his stories.
He's a phenomenal storyteller.
Yeah.
And I think somebody said something one time, one of the best tweets I ever read was that they said newspapers were a fad. The village storyteller is as old as language. And now the campfire is 6 billion people connected to the internet. And for Dan, his download numbers are nuts. He's only talked about it a few times. My guess would be his audience size for some of his bigger things were probably like 10 to 15 million people, I would guess. Because I remember one time he said that, he never mentioned downloads, he's like, My last episode got like 19 million downloads. I was like, that's insane. But then he said that there was a glitch and it was double counted. So even if it's double count, it's 9 million people. And yeah, I just think he's a phenomenal storyteller. And then the way he does the podcast is crazy because I've listened to interviews on this where I thought, again, it sounds like it's, I thought it was scripted. And it's like, no, he's going to read 30 books, right? He's going to spend half a year doing that.
And he's going to sit down and he records it little by little. So he'll record, you know, little segments over half a year, nine months, and then stitches them all together. And I was like, that's, that's incredible. But the, the benefit he had is he was on, he was on the radio for like 20 years or 15 years or whatever it was a long time before podcasts. He started his podcast in 2005. Yeah.
Yeah. Dude, I went to PodCamp Boston 2006, which was like an event for podcasters. Let me put it this way. The people at that event, there was some... It was like fringe people. Like you were to be a podcaster in 2005, 2006, you were fringe. I mean, yeah. How did you discover it that early? I went to go visit Boston and I saw someone wearing a t-shirt that says, that said, I pod, therefore I am. So I said, hey, where did you get that T-shirt? And they said, at PodCamp. And I said, what's PodCamp? And they said, have you ever heard of podcasts? And I was like, yeah, I have. Because I had been working on the iPod video, actually. So do you remember the iPod video? The iPod came out. This is not that of an interesting story, but...
The iPod came out and Steve Jobs had this idea that wouldn't it be cool if you could play videos on your iPod? So they built it, but they didn't have any content. And I was working on a website called startcooking.com, which was animations for learning how to cook. So Start Cooking was a partner to the iPod video. Oh, wow. Yeah. Anyways. She had a front row seat. So I was like, bro, I know about podcasts. But you weren't listening to them. No. I just knew that.
What would you listen to back then? It'd be Dan Carlin.
Yeah, exactly.
One of the early ones I got into too were Bill Burr, the comedian. So he was so early that the way he recorded his podcast is you would call a phone number and you would leave a voicemail. And there's a service that changed the voicemail into an mp3 player they would take that mp3 and then upload it for you so he would literally his early podcast he's just calling a number he's just rambling into a voicemail and that's converted into a podcast It's incredible. I really do feel it's an absolute miracle. And I still feel this to this day where it's like, it doesn't matter what in the world that you're interested in. You can find, we were just talking about before we started recording about like, what the hell do you do? Like I have two kids, like what is schooling and what is education in the world of chat GPT? Like my 12 year old daughter is just using chat GPT for everything. And the school is just acting like this doesn't exist.
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