In my second Deep Dive Into Thoughtful Travel interview episode, I speak with James Mwenda in Kenya - and I'm really excited to share our chat. For almost a decade, James was a caretaker for the last three - then two - northern white rhinos in the world, at Ol Pejeta Conservancy in Kenya. It's heartbreaking to imagine working with the very last animals of a species - and James talks about the emotional toll this work takes. We also talk about what thoughtful, sustainable travel should look like, and James has recently started his own expedition company, Jemu Expeditions, to show travellers to Kenya the things he loves most about his country. From the importance of tourism dollars for conservation efforts to his emphasis on using tourism to support his local community, James has so many words of wisdom. Links: James’s expedition company, Jemu Expeditions - https://www.jemuexpeditions.com Ol Pejeta Conservancy - https://www.olpejetaconservancy.org Video of James speaking about Sudan, the last male northern white rhino - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8G9brceVivo Extract from Kifaru, a documentary about the rhino caretaker unit James was a part of - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_WKm547F20 Join our Facebook group for Thoughtful Travellers - https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtfultravellers Join our LinkedIn group for Thoughtful Travellers - https://notaballerina.com/linkedin Show notes: https://notaballerina.com/246 Support the show: https://thoughtfultravel.substack.com/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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