MAGA Mirage: Trump & Vance’s Contradictory Conservatism
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What is the new pro‑worker populist shift in the Republican Party?
Hey everybody. Uh welcome once again to the weekly show podcast. My name is John Stewart, and we have uh today's show is another follow-up of our continuing series uh entitled John Stewart Doesn't Know What the Fuck He's Talking About When It Comes to Economics. We we've got a fabulous panel today uh that is going to to delve into sort of this idea of the rights new populism and and how they're doing that. But as we know, we're only I think now we're we're down to hours to the election. I think I saw somewhere it's four hundred and some hours, which Uh you know, obviously if my uh calculations are correct or I think that's three days? It's gotta be more than that. It's it's I don't the math thing is obviously a little bit of a problem for me, but uh the election is coming up.
Uh people are wildly stressed out. Uh, there is an awful lot that's going on. I thought of for the podcast today, we could have this discussion about economics, which I always find fascinating, or or And this is for something at home and you can send in your comments. We'll talk about that at the end of the show when we're back with our uh incredible producers, Brittany Lorne, and we'll be introducing our associate producer Jillian. Uh Or For the next forty to fifty minutes, I will play Ave Maria. And just sway slowly. Now it's a podcast, obviously. You're probably just listening to this. You won't be able to see me. But occasionally I will just mention and the hands are moving right. Is anybody fainting?
And it's the YMCA. And it's back to Ave Maria. What a fucking Fellini film this guy's campaign has turned into. And the idea that this is in any way close is the most baffling. Uh, you know, there were Howard Dean was not allowed to run for president anymore because he screamed a little bit too loud. Once. And this guy is Raising money with like A dance marathon. in front of a bunch of people in ninety five degree weather who are having like diabetic coma issues and passing out. And then having to get taken out by EMTs while Christy Gnome stands there scanning the crowd for a dog to shoot. Like this whole thing is falling apart. And becoming maniacal. And then you go online and they're like, Trump, he killed that rally.
That was awesome. He stood up the whole time. didn't fall once, like this is bonkers. So we are going to recenter this utterly surreal. avant garde performance art of a fucking election that we're having on that one side and and recenter it with some lovely people who are going to talk about economics and are very, very smart in doing so. So let let me let me get to them first, but before I uh no, let's just get to it. Let's get to it. Okay, ladies and gentlemen, uh the main event is here. We are so excited today. We've got Orin Cass, chief economist for uh American Compass, uh think tank on uh economic policy and those things, and Zachary Carter, author of The Price of Peace. Money democracy and the life of John Maynard.
Canes. Oh, Keynes. Ladies and gentlemen. This is the economic throwdown we've all been waiting for. Three men enter and also will leave. Listen, let's be fair. They're really the stakes of this are quite low. Uh But we will actually not even leave really. We'll just log out. But uh the point is, uh gentlemen, it I'm delighted to to see you guys today. Thank you so much for for joining us. Thanks for having us. Oh really looking forward to it. Uh w w what we want to talk about is there has been a to my mind uh an incredible shift in the Republican Party rhetoric. about the economy. There's sort of this idea of the mantle of populism. that is being grasped by not not the entirety of the Republican Party, but certainly uh Oren, I think, uh
your organization is kind of Helping to lead this charge of a more Populist. Worker friendly. Republican Party. So I guess m my question t to you would be, how how did this come about? And how receptive have they been on it?
Well, I think the Republican Party sort of had to undergo a change. I mean, we've been doing the the nineteen eighty Ronald Reagan playbook for for 40 plus years now.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the new pro‑worker populist shift in the Republican Party?
0:05–9:18
2
How do Oren Cass and Zachary Carter explain the rise of “worker‑friendly” conservatism?
9:18–19:57
3
Why do the guests argue that traditional supply‑side policies no longer work?
19:57–33:04
4
What role do tariffs play in the proposed post‑Trump economic agenda?
33:04–44:56
5
How does immigration factor into the debate over American manufacturing and wages?
44:56–53:59
6
What alternatives to tax cuts and tariffs do the panel suggest for boosting labor power?
53:59–1:03:50
7
What does “post‑Trump conservatism” look like according to the guests?
1:03:50–1:08:44
8
How do the hosts wrap up the discussion and what key takeaways do they highlight?
1:08:44–1:09:44