Ep. 4: “Hide or Seek” with Jason Isaacs and Sarah Catherine Hook
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Hello and welcome to the White Lotus official podcast companion to season three. I'm Gia Tolentino. And I'm Josh Behrman. And we saw Dick. We saw Dick in episode four.
We did. We did finally at last.
Yeah.
We got a real close up of Daddy's and Gorge Balls.
And then in season two... We see Theo James's, if I'm recalling correctly, prosthetic dick in here.
His Dirk Diggler prosthesis.
Yeah.
And then everybody screamed in the room. Yeah, yeah.
Including both rooms, like the fictional room. Yeah, right, right. The children also screamed. That's right.
On the screen room and in the viewership.
Yeah.
They got a rise out of us.
Yes. And, you know, I mean, the reason that we saw Dick is because Timothy has been taking too much lorazepam. Right.
Right. Well, first of all, we should just note, very spicy episode.
Spicy episode.
This thing is kicking the gear here.
And later in this episode, we'll be talking to Jason Isaacs and Sarah Catherine Hook, who play Tim and Piper Ratliff. This episode is called Hide or Seek and written and directed, like all of them, by Mike White.
So the first thing we see is Jacqueline, and we get the first hint of trouble in paradise back home with Harrison, her younger man.
Well, kind of the second hint, right? Because the ladies were already saying, like, I don't think they even see each other.
Oh, right, right, right. They were intuiting that there might be something going on.
And it's kind of an unlikely pairing, which maybe is attributable to the fact that he's 10 years younger. We know he's on set all the time. We know he's super hot. And our minds go where Jacqueline's mind is going, which is he's... He's fucking.
He's bunny-raveting with some other, somebody on set.
Yes. And then the girlies' age becomes kind of, like, they've come into the White Lotus being like, this is our victory tour, we're hot, we are, you know, we're beautiful, all this stuff. And then they spend a lot of this episode kind of feeling like they're not at the center of anything, like they're not valuable.
Those three in particular are suddenly going through some kind of, like, Greek mythical series of trials and tribulations. Right. Like, Micah's decided to put them through the wringer in this episode.
I love the hotel, but it's a little dead. Do you know what I'm saying? Is there some place around here, another place a little more fun, has more of a vibe?
They get sent to this other resort, and then they get there and they just see it's all full of old people. It's all full of retirees. Yeah, it's like retirees. Like, the first people they talk to are these women on, like, some kind of group tour of widows. Yeah.
Yeah, who can't, you know, who want to go to the White Lotus but can't. And, you know, Jacqueline is looking around at loose skin, which she has not seen in years as a denizen of L.A. Which is her worst fear. Yeah, she's looking around at her worst fear made real. And it's like Jacqueline who, you know, everyone's been telling her for years and years and years, like, you look unbelievable. You know, you're how old? Like, you look like you're in your 30s still. You know, all of these things. Suddenly she has this thought, like— Did he send us here because he thinks we're old? And she freaks out.
By the way, also, the way the show kind of like lingers and then slowly reveals in every direction, it's all full of these old people, is both funny and then sort of – and then tragic for the characters because you realize that this is – they're in some – it's almost like they're in some kind of purgatory, right? Or they're also in the theme of like –
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