The Seventh Experiment: Lacerta Reveals the Truth of our Creation
episodePreviously titled “577: The Seventh Experiment: Lacerta Reveals the Truth of our Creation” — renamed by the publisher on Aug 2, 2026
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What happened during Ole K.'s 1999 interview?
His articles had ruined careers and earned him a reputation as a tough professional skeptic. But now his pencil was floating above his desk. The being across from him called herself Lucerta. She told him how humanity was created and how it would end. And she could prove it. The world's most notorious UFO skeptic was about to understand why some stories can't be debunked.
Ol' Kay arrived early to set up his equipment. One camera, one tape recorder. That's all Lacerda allowed. Every hoaxer had rules. He didn't argue. He figured he'd be out in an hour. The story was obviously fake. Lacerda claimed to be from a race of beings living deep within the Earth. Some say they're shapeshifters. They don't change shape. They change the way the human brain sees them. They're highly evolved and intelligent with extremely advanced technology. They are... Reptilians.
Who is Lacerta and what does she reveal?
Lizard people!
The Lacerda files appeared online in the early 2000s. They're transcripts of two interviews, one from 1999 and one from 2000. A journalist known as Ol' Kay spoke with a female reptilian who calls herself Lacerda when she's with humans. Apparently, we can't pronounce her real name, and mispronouncing someone's name in her culture is offensive. This sounds like a millennial lizard, people.
How old is she? Is she on TikTok?
She's 28 years old.
Checks out. She was around 5'5 and humanoid.
Her skin was pale green with brown dots, and her eyes were larger than human eyes with vertical slits for pupils. And when she blinked, a transparent membrane slid sideways across her eyes. Her species is called the tern. They lived beneath the Earth for millions of years in vast cities carved from solid rock. I linked to the full text, and you'll want to read it, but here's what matters. Lucerta knew things, things about ancient cultures, quantum mechanics, computer science. She said humans didn't evolve. We were engineered by aliens who needed slaves.
Yeah, new Nike.
Right. They have many names.
The beings you call the Elohim, we knew them as the Illijim. They needed workers. They found primitive apes and began their experiments. But you aren't the first attempt. You're the seventh.
Wait, wait, wait, what? Humans are version seven?
Well, each version was an experiment. Create, test, destroy, then start again. The Illijim left Earth before finishing version seven. Now they're coming back to fix their mistake. Lucerta's story began not with her species, but with ours. She said human evolution is a lie. We were created by aliens called the Illogim. They come from the star system we call Aldebaran.
What is the significance of the Illijim in human history?
I thought the Death Star blew up Aldebaran.
Aldebaran.
What'd I say?
The Illogim arrived on Earth 1.5 million years ago to mine copper. This would require a large labor force. So they altered a primitive ape's genetics and created a new species to do the work. Version 1 was promising but flawed, so they wiped it out and started again. And again. Lacerda says the evidence of these earlier versions is all around us. Archaeologists say the Great Pyramid of Giza was built around 2500 BC.
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Chapters
7 chapters
1
What happened during Ole K.'s 1999 interview?
0:53–1:52
2
Who is Lacerta and what does she reveal?
1:52–3:48
3
What is the significance of the Illijim in human history?
3:48–5:41
4
Are ancient structures evidence of previous human experiments?
5:41–9:33
5
What theories exist about the extinction of the dinosaurs?
9:33–11:55
6
How does copper play a role in advanced technology?
11:55–12:46
7
What are the implications of the return of the Illijim?
12:46–25:34
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