Climate Change: What the Data Actually Shows with Geologist Scott Tinker
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
This whole concept that we in the modern world have reduced our emissions, why?
Well, it's BS, right? We outsourced it to them. Completely.
There's no renewable energy. There's no such thing as renewable energy. No, that's a myth. You have to have these collection systems, and those come from the earth. They're mine. For 20 years, Europe has been flat economically. You have to look at that and say, intentions, outcomes. If your industries are closing, your people are leaving, it's not going to help the climate. You're hurting the environment.
Because wealthy nations can afford to invest in the environment. In the interim, though, the planet will get warmer and we're going to have to adapt. Yes. That's inevitable. We are adapting. And what allows you to do that? Wealth. Scott Tinker, welcome to Trigonometry. Thank you. It's great to have you here. We want to talk about energy. It's a really important conversation. It's one we've covered from different angles, but you're someone who's got a very sensible, pragmatic, rational approach to it, which is why it's great to have you on. Before we get into all of that, tell us a little bit about who you are, your background, how you've come to be sitting here with us. Sure.
well i'm a geologist by training and studied that and worked in the technical side of the oil and gas industry for 17 years built 3d reservoir models and hung off of big cliffs and around the world and did field work and that kind of stuff and then 25 six years ago i went to university university of texas at austin to run a research unit that I built into a pretty big thing, 250 people, global energy, environmental, economics, blending research around the world. And in that role came to begin to appreciate kind of the interplay between energy and the economy and the environment and how those balance around the world. And then along the way, I started making films with a filmmaker. We can get into all that, but
That eventually ended up in 60 countries around the world, not in airports, actually deep into them and seeing how the whole world lived. And that's kind of influenced who I am today and what I do. So I've transitioned. Well, Arthur Brooks, he had a great book, right? He talked about the two curves from strength to strength. That first curve for me was a technical scientist. The second curve is an educator. That's carried me along for a while.
All right, well, educate us. What I wanted to ask you is, first of all, to break down the reality of energy patterns and consumption around the world. Like, what is going on? Because if you live in the Western world, country if you live in the city in the western country is every second car is electric we're making this great energy transition everything's wonderful renewable energy everywhere you know you see sun panels and all of this stuff but that's not quite the reality of the world is it
Not the whole world. No. Yeah. Two of my favorite words, transition and renewable. But we're not, and they aren't. And I said that in a TED Talk, actually, to 1,100 kids.
Who is Scott Tinker and how did his geology career shape his views on energy?
I went through what we started with. food cow and kale to understand energy density and took them through different forms of energy and how some you just get a lot more bang for the buck but all of them come from the earth a solar panel comes from the earth a wind turbine comes from the earth the battery comes near this mine and then it's manufactured in these collection systems collects the sun light heat and motion of the wind and it's converted into electricity but those wear out and then we dump them into landfills, and we do it over and over, so there's no renewable energy.
That's it. There's no such thing as renewable energy.
No, that's a myth we've carried forward in our schools. And the sun and the wind are there, but you can't put sun in your car. So you have to have these collection systems, and those come from the earth. They're mine. Other kinds of energy are denser. Coal came along. At first it was wood, and then the sun was the first form of energy. It grew the hay that our vehicles of the day used, oxen and horses.
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Chapters
5 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:02–3:26
2
Who is Scott Tinker and how did his geology career shape his views on energy?
3:26–14:14
3
Why does Scott say 'there's no renewable energy' — what are the limits of solar and wind?
14:14–18:37
4
What does energy density mean and why does it determine the future of power sources?
18:37–26:42
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How does global energy consumption actually break down between rich, emerging and developing regions?
26:42–1:17:20
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