Richard Allen Appeal: The Arguments That Could Change the Delphi Case

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What is the overall focus of the Richard Allen appeal hearing?

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Katie Weaver 0:36
Hey everybody, welcome to the True Crime Squad. I'm Christy Brower here with my sister, co host, and partner in crime, Katie Weaver. Hey Katie. Hello? How's it going?
Kristi Brower 0:46
It's going just fine, we're here. fighting my lighting situation. You may have noticed last week that my lighting was really bad for some reason, so We're we're trying to fix it. I don't know if it's better. It's somewhat better. We'll keep working on it. It's definitely better. Yeah. I don't know why tech won't just, you know, I don't know, normalize, but here we are.
Katie Weaver 1:05
I don't know, lighting is something when it comes to podcasting. Sure. Hey Dean, welcome. Welcome squad. We're all so glad that you're here. And yeah, what a what a day in Drupal. Ooh. What? A day. Mm-hmm. So we had day two. of the Caleb Lynn Tar trial. We had the Richard Allen Oral Arguments for Appeal.
Unknown 1:31
Yes.
Katie Weaver 1:32
We had The uh Matthew Exton sentencing. And I also heard we got a ruling in Koenig that that dude is not getting a new trial. So I'm so s I'm I'm shocked I tell you. Yeah. And I've probably missed some things because I've been deep in streaming and trials and and stuff all day and like holy cows.
Kristi Brower 2:00
Oh yes. Really interesting filing. The uh events are now playing They want the contents of that juror's phone. Because if he was scrolling through his phone when he was supposed to be deliberating They wanna know what he was doing and what he was learning.
Katie Weaver 2:15
And was that genuinely true?
Kristi Brower 2:18
Yeah. Like it doesn't mean he'll the this defense will get that by any stretch. But they're
Katie Weaver 2:23
asking for
Kristi Brower 2:24
it.
Katie Weaver 2:25
But it is very confusing when other jurors have reported that he was scrolling his phone while they were deliberating. Why did he have his phone? They had their phones during deliberation? I can't imagine that they should have. That is so weird, but he's scrolling? While they're deliberate like it's bizarre.
Kristi Brower 2:41
Yeah.
Katie Weaver 2:43
So Anyway, we had all of that. And then we had to decide what are we gonna come here and talk to you about? And uh what we decided to talk to you about is the Richard Allen uh appeal the uh oral arguments for the Richard Allen appeal. It was very interesting. Um We've kind of been waiting for this for a while. You know, we are team Richard Allen didn't do this. Uh it's okay if you're not. We're not gonna fight with you about it, but we are gonna show you both sides of what was pr presented and some of what the judges had to say and what some of the judges' questions were. That's the part that's always so fascinating for me with these, um. appeal hearings, you know, because each side gets like 30 minutes and then the defense, because they it was their argument, then they got a 10 minute rebuttal.
Katie Weaver 3:32
This is so fast. Fire on some children. big issues quickly.
Mark Lehman 3:38
Yeah.
Katie Weaver 3:39
And they have J Giganti g gigantic uh filings, you know. I used the word earlier voluminous because it is they you know, these appeal filings are huge. But then they have to boil their case down to thirty minutes in front of these judges as fast as they can. And the thing that I always find interesting is um What the what the judges ask. Whew.
Kristi Brower 4:04
Yeah.
Katie Weaver 4:05
What what they hit on. And they hit on some really powerful things today. Um Yes, we did. We have said that some things were fishy and unfair in Delphi early. We have. We've and we've taken some real hits for that and I don't care. Um Well when Richard was arrested.
Kristi Brower 4:22
Yeah. Just quickly, when Richard was arrested We read the uh arrest affidavit here on the show. And we just found it to be really lacking and concerning and we're Honestly truly thinking the state would have had to have a lot more evidence than that. And they they didn't.
Katie Weaver 4:40
You know
Kristi Brower 4:40
how sometimes you read that. What was in the arrest

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