Ep 1019 | Jase Uncovers a Big Jesus Controversy & What to Do If Your Spouse Feels Like Your Enemy

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What does it mean to know Jesus better?

Jase 0:01
I am unashamed. What about you? Welcome back to Unashamed. We've kind of been talking about the last podcast, this idea of a new year, the idea that for me, I've been using the term to know Jesus better. Jason's been talking about Jesus stuff. How do we make Jesus stuff applicable? When are we going to do the Jesus stuff?

How can we make Jesus' teachings applicable in our lives?

That was my point. Right, right, right. As a church, as a family, as an individual. Because I'm just saying, when you read the Gospels and then look at your life, there should be a profound determination. Does my life look like Jesus? I have his spirit in me, right?
Jase 0:46
Right. And I like the idea. So you ended the last podcast by telling the story about you apologizing to Missy, which, by the way, we should never get too far along in life. We can't apologize to anybody. Right. Especially people we love the most. But I love the idea because I was thinking the exact same thing, Jace. When you first become a Christian, when you go all in, you believe you surrender. There is a point in time where we just get to that point where it's unmanageable where we are and we give in. And for some people, that's very young. Some people, it's older. Some people have stuff in between. I call it the proclamation of intention. In other words... I'm proclaiming I want to be a follower of Jesus.
Jase 1:26
And according to Ephesians 1.13, when that happens, we receive the Spirit of Christ. We are included in Him. It says we're marked in Him with the deposit of our resurrection, the Holy Spirit. But then, and I brought up Ephesians 1.17.18. For me, it was just kind of my theme verse for this year, even though we're going to be studying John. There's this idea that if we have a spirit of willingness, now that we've made our intention, I call that the process of integrity. In other words, it takes time to build integrity. You mentioned 34 years in marriage with Missy. For Lisa and I, it's been 40 years. It's been a process. And look, there's been some rough times and there's been some amazing times. But over the course of the time,
Jase 2:11
There's an integrity for both of us that's grown, and that's the process of growth in Christ. That's what should be happening. We shouldn't look at the end. When we get down to the end of our lives, like mom and dad have been together 60 years now, and I'll watch them, and man, the integrity they have for each other and their relationship with God, that's the way we want it to be as we get closer to the end. The biblical word for that is sanctification.

How can we build integrity in our relationships?

Zach 2:35
There you go. It's being freed. progressively from the power of sin over the span of your life. And that's something that happens in measure as you walk and grow in maturity.
Jase 2:46
And I'm so glad you brought that word up, Zach, because I think it's in, is it 1 Thessalonians? It talks about the sanctifying work of the Holy Spirit. So you can't have sanctification if you first don't have the Holy Spirit, because that's the source of the work that goes on over the course of your life. And some people get it quicker, some people it takes longer.
Zach 3:06
Well, it's John, John makes that, or Jesus makes that point in John's gospel too. I mean, you get to, when we get to John 14, 16, 15, 16, 17. Right. Um, he says the spirit of truth will guide you into all truth. And he links, Jesus links the Holy spirit with the agent of the Trinity who reveals truth to the believer. And he says in John 17, that that truth then sanctifies the believer. So it's a, He prays that they'll be sanctified by the truth. Your word is truth. Well, how are you going to hear the word? The Holy Spirit reveals that to us. And he reveals to us who God is. And so the reason why that results in sanctification and being freed from the power or the grip of sin is that when God reveals abundant life to me, which is himself.
Zach 3:53
And as I participate in the abundant life, as I participate in him, then I stopped believing in the lies because I'm actually tasting in the goodness of God. And my faith increases as I give glory to him. Romans chapter four. That's what happened with Abraham. I think that's the progression of how that happens.

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