Ep 1207 | Jase Announces Unashamed’s First-Ever Retraction & What Is the Curse of Adam?
episodePreviously titled “Ep 1207 | Jase Comes Clean About What REALLY Happened on the Macy’s Parade Float & the Curse of Idols” — renamed by the publisher on Aug 3, 2026
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What apology did Jase and Al make regarding their Macy's Parade memory?
I am unashamed. What about you?
Welcome back to Unashamed. I have to open with a sincere apology.
Yes, we will give you time.
How does unbridled sexual sin relate to idolatry?
Is this our first official retraction?
Maybe. This is apologies are in order episode. Look, I know.
What does it mean that Jesus is referred to as the 'second Adam'?
I did it. I am upset. I did it. Our crack staff, you know, Maddie's gone. We mentioned that on the last podcast. She's on a cruise somewhere. She's somewhere in the Caribbean. And Josh, who's our Swiss Army knife, who used to be our producer, and now he's moved up or outward. I don't know if it's a lateral move, Zach, or I mean a Josh or an upward move. But he does a little bit of everything for us. But he looked up during our interlude here before from the last podcast to now, which for us is 10 minutes ago.
Why is idolatry considered the ultimate sin?
For you guys, it's a day or two. And it was not Pat Benatar that was at the Macy's Parade when we were there. It was Joan Jett, which Jace correctly said, because my mind went to the song. And then I started doubting myself on the podcast. But then I thought, no, it had to be Pat.
Not really. You didn't seem like you were doubting yourself.
Well, I was strong until I sang the jukebox song, and then I thought, uh-oh, I think I've got the wrong person. I did.
This is how fake news starts.
What curse was placed on Adam and how does it connect to thorns?
This is how fake news starts.
Pat Benatar just out there minding her own business.
So, Pat, if you're a listener or someone's a fan or a friend of Pat Benatar, please give her my apologies. She can hit me with her best shot. It wasn't Pat. It wasn't Pat. But it was Joan Jett.
How are faith and good works interconnected in Christian belief?
And Josh found out that she was upset. I thought she was upset about being on the bus with us. He said in the reporting, you know, on the Internet.
No, once he said it, I remembered it.
She was supposed to perform on our float, and she refused to do it because she's a very strong PETA person.
What is the least-preached verse in the Bible and its significance?
Yeah. So she's the people for ethical treatment of animals. And I guess she thought our duck hunting— Violated that. I feel like we treat animals very ethically.
You're actually surprised. Look, somebody at a meeting somewhere in New York for the Macy's parade said, oh, I got it. Let's get Joan Jett and Duck Dynasty on the float together.
How does submission play a role in the salvation narrative?
What could go wrong? She's into PETA. They're hunting ducks. Oh, yeah, I'm sure it'll be great.
And she's on the back of our bus fuming about the whole setup, and that was the problem. So now I get it.
I missed it. Which led her to a new song. She had the one, I Love Rock and Roll. And then she came out with the next one, which was I Hate Duck Dynasty.
I hate that dynasty. I made that up.
Look, I made that up. Josh, that's the first time I've seen you laugh.
That's all it took after eight years. I think that takes a real man, Al. That takes a real man.
You know, Zach, you got to admit when you're wrong. And Jace used to wear the shirt that said I could be wrong. And so we always got to remember that. I was wrong. Pat Benatar, we love you. Integrity check. Love is a battlefield. Love is a battlefield. It's a great song. That's what started this. And I don't even have anything against Joan Jett. She didn't want to perform with us, but I still like her music. Yeah. Okay. It was like, remember when y'all were going to be on Jimmy Kimmel and there was this singer that wouldn't appear? Same reason. He said, I'm out. I'm out. I'm not going to be with Jason.
Well, the fact that we were on Jimmy Kimmel...
Well, look at now. That seems pretty amazing.
We were on that show.
I know.
I said very little.
And he defended y'all about that whole situation. You and Willie did a funny skit.
I think it shows you, though, how much the culture has now defined themselves. I mean, people were, I think, in their respective closets about different things.
And by the way, just to put this in perspective, this wasn't like last year. This was like 13 or 14 years ago. This is a long time ago.
That's what I mean. But now everybody's, you know, we're so divided politically.
Exactly.
That everyone now is like, I only want people on our show who think like me.
What dad used to always say about Pete and stuff, he would be like, hey, if you don't want to eat meat, I got no issue with that.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What apology did Jase and Al make regarding their Macy's Parade memory?
0:01–0:14
2
How does unbridled sexual sin relate to idolatry?
0:14–0:24
3
What does it mean that Jesus is referred to as the 'second Adam'?
0:24–0:54
4
Why is idolatry considered the ultimate sin?
0:54–1:22
5
What curse was placed on Adam and how does it connect to thorns?
1:22–1:40
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How are faith and good works interconnected in Christian belief?
1:40–1:59
7
What is the least-preached verse in the Bible and its significance?
1:59–2:21
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How does submission play a role in the salvation narrative?
2:21–56:15
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