Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1232 | Jase & Lisa Harper Open Up About the Adoption Heartbreak No One Talks About
18 Dec 2025
Chapter 1: What humorous background does Lisa Harper share about her early life?
So no matter how you slice it, we're definitely in a divided time in our country. There's no way around it. We see it every single day and watch the news. And so I think in this time of division, we have to have consistency, the speaking into the values that we believe in. One of our good friends, Tony Perkins, heads up an organization called Family Research Council. He's a Louisiana guy.
He's a pastor.
Chapter 2: How did Lisa Harper find her faith and begin her ministry?
He has our heart. for Jesus. He even did a blurb in Dad's book, A Theft of America's Soul. And it's just been there for us as a family, but also as a nation. So FRC is standing for what's right. They defend faith. They protect families.
Chapter 3: What does it mean to trust God during life's lowest moments?
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I am unashamed. What about you?
Welcome back to Unashamed, still on our Nashville barnstorming. Yeah.
Chapter 4: How does God prioritize our presence over our performance?
And it's really interesting because we had a country singer on, which there's a lot of country singers in Nashville. We had a comedian on. There's a lot of comedians in Nashville. And today, a Bible scholar.
Scholar is very gracious. How many Bible scholars are there in Nashville?
Chapter 5: What insights does the Bible provide as a love letter to us?
Scholar is very gracious.
You're very scholarly, Lisa.
It sounds appropriate after a singer and a comedian.
Yeah. So Lisa Harper is joining us on the podcast. Yes. One thing I'm already liking you, Lisa, because I'm looking at that Bible and that's screaming of my dad. Oh, wow. Because his was not quite as many stickies as you have, but definitely the wornness and the writing and all the things. And you said this is special because your dad.
Yeah, my dad wrote in it before he passed. And my dad was...
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Chapter 6: Am I good enough to be a parent, especially in the context of adoption?
He was a many-layered man, you know, pretty rough, early start. Sounds familiar. Yeah, myself too. So much repentance later in his life. And he was a real gruff. He was kind of a miniature John Wayne. So he didn't use a lot of words, but my dad knew the Word of God.
Chapter 7: What are the joys and heartbreaks of being an adoptive parent?
And so the latter half of his life was so amazing. And I just, I don't know, he wrote in this right before he died. And I just, it's kind of a security blanket.
Wow.
Well, the first time I ever heard of you, we were up for the Caleb Podcast of the Year Award together. And I just want you to know, I voted for you. I voted for y'all. I just want you to know, I thought you were way better than us.
We must have eked out the victory.
Chapter 8: How can we find redemption and purpose in our stories of loss?
You know, I adore Sadie. I would follow Sadie across cut glass. But I was like, if there's a Robertson in it, I just need to come and serve her coffee.
So... We were humbled by that.
Don't you get tickled at the K-Love Fed Awards? I always say it's like Christian prom. It is. It is. Because some people take themselves real seriously. I'm like, y'all, this is Christian prom.
Yeah, come on.
But it's fun. We always go to Waffle House afterwards.
I actually was at K-Love yesterday because my other son, his fiancee works there. Oh, really? And we wanted to surprise her for her birthday. And so we get there, we have flowers and a card and Well, now everywhere there's so much security. And I walk in and I thought, it's Caleb. I've been on your show. Well, the security guy. I want a warranty.
No, they don't play.
He did not recognize me. And he's like, I was like, no, I was on your. I'm going to make this happen. And he's like, you're not going anywhere. So that was embarrassing. But then just randomly, here she comes, like she was leaving for the day. Lisa, you could get in there, right?
I actually came from K-Love here. That's where we record our podcast. I think that's the only reason we ever get up with y'all on the award show is my guests. But they're great, great people. We loved watching that building. They were based in California and they moved to Nashville or Franklin.
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