Unmasking and Living Authentically, with Dr. Devon Price
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Hi, I'm Dr. Barry Prazant, clinical scholar, researcher, and consultant on autism and neurodiversity, and a Brooklyn boy raised in the big city. And
I'm Dave. I'm none of those things, and I grew up on a farm in Illinois. But being on the spectrum myself, I have plenty of personal insight to lend.
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Uniquely human the podcast, a show that illuminates and celebrates autism and neurodiversity.
We are so pleased to have Dr. Devron Price back with us again. Um and to share some information about all the important work he's been doing. and the impact on the field as well as a new work that's about to be published. So welcome back to Uniquely Human. The podcast,
Evan. Hi, Barry, Dave, thank you so much for having me back. It's great to be back.
Thank you for coming back. Absolute pleasure. A little bit about you. Um, so Devin Price, uh PAB is a social psychologist, professor, and author of the acclaimed book Unmasking Autism. As a proud autistic person and transgender man, his writings reflect both his personal experiences and his published research, which have appeared in journals such as the Journal of Experimental Social Psychology, Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin, and the Journal of Positive Psychology. Devon's writings have appeared on outlets such as the Financial Times. Huffington Post, Slate, Business Insider, and on EBS and NPR. Devin lives in Chicago, where he serves as professor in the Loyola University, Chicago School of Consulting and Professional Studies.
And he's the author of the forthcoming book, Unmasking for Life, The Autistic Person's Guide to Connecting, Loving, and Living Authentically. Wow, okay. So we have so much we could talk about. Uh And I know many, many people um have just loved our first time that we shared with you on the podcast, but maybe some did not have a chance to listen to that. So if you could give a little bit of your background once again and your journey um that led to your autism diagnosis, your choice to transition. Um and uh so our listeners will know you and give them the best context for our discussion.
Sure. Yeah. So um so as my bio describes, I am a uh social psychologist by training, but I did not find out that I was autistic until after I finished my PhD. And I I think like a lot of the type of kind of masked autistic that I am, I was someone who knew that conventional regular life expectations were not gonna work for me from a young age, but I was good at academics and communicating. And so I really loaded all of my energy into those few socially approved of skills that I had. And I thought to myself, I'm gonna become a professor. You can be eccentric if you're a professor, right? Like people won't judge me there. So yes, that was that was the logic. And so I really pushed hard on that. And I finished my PhD at twenty-five.
And then I was working on a postdoc when I fell into a really bad case of burnout. Um, now I would also call it autistic burnout, though the distinction between those two things is a little fuzzy sometimes. I was in really poor health, um, really bad anemia, I had a heart murmur, I Couldn't I was I was in bed every night um from like six PM and you know with a fever. like a hundred and three degree fever. It lasted from February of that year through November. And I didn't really know what was going on with me. It was this really big seismic shift because I was supposed to be applying to, you know, tenure track professorship jobs and I could no longer live at that work pace. And it was around that time
that a cousin of mine was struggling with uh the transition to college, going to college, and he got assessed for autism.
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