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#2985 RHOC S19E08 Part 2: Lie Deflectors

29 Aug 2025

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Chapter 1: What happens at the Persian New Year Fake Lie Detector party?

7.473 - 38.14 Ben Mandelker

Who cares what happens when there's so much that happens Who cares what happens when there's so much that happens Well, hello, and welcome to Watch What Happens. This is part two of a two-part recap. If you're like, hey, wait a minute, I didn't hear part one. Guys, it's because we put out a lot of recaps. Go back and listen to part one, okay? It's before this one. Bye, enjoy the show.

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39.062 - 43.368 Gretchen Rossi

So then, dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun. Speaking of which, here's Tamara.

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43.708 - 49.056 Ben Mandelker

I think this is your question. I'm sorry to interrupt you, but just to answer your question, I think it's because...

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49.475 - 75.516 Ben Mandelker

when they thought tamra quit and was off the show they didn't give a they were just ready to ghost her forever but now that they know she's coming back and that she can traumatize them for another season they're like oh we better be nice exactly i think that that should show tamra how much these people think of all of her because they're immediately all ready to write her off and never speak to her again that's exactly correct so she shows up and she's like you thought you can't get rid of me that quickly batch i'm back

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75.952 - 78.936 Gretchen Rossi

So, Emily's like, oh, wow, are you mad at me?

78.956 - 88.37 Tamara Judge

She's like, well, I'm just sad. Sad that you didn't call me, bitch. She's like, well, no, I had a lot of stuff going on with Luke, and I haven't shared it with you, but he has an eating disorder.

88.47 - 98.664 Tamara Judge

We came back from New Orleans, he had regressed, and what I'm trying to say is, I'm going to use my son's situation as a get-out-of-jail card with why I didn't talk to you, and this is why you shouldn't be mad at me.

98.684 - 104.052 Emily Simpson

And I'm like, this lady, basically...

106.04 - 123.704 Gretchen Rossi

But, like, also, this lady just threatened to quit the show, jeopardize the entire flow of the season. Like, that could have messed up so many things for all of them. And they're just like, oh, yeah, welcome back. Like, without anything. And I just feel like it's such a double standard when it comes to Katie.

Chapter 2: How does Tamara's return affect the group dynamics?

207.242 - 218.866 Gretchen Rossi

I'm like, well, it's so fake. Her pretending like she is actually, like, it's not pretending. It's that, like, the way she just craters to Tamara's will time and time again.

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219.608 - 227.958 Emily Simpson

So Tamara's like, well, you've got Katie and this fucking girl. Everything's hurting my feelings. How can I not be upset about it again? How can I not?

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228.799 - 233.485 Ben Mandelker

And Gina's like, don't you worry about her. Okay, we've got her. We've got Katie.

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233.585 - 242.376 Unknown

We've got a plan. We've got a plan. And Emma's like, yeah, today is going to be a personally pitiful, pivotal day in this group. Pivotal.

243.368 - 269.342 Ben Mandelker

so katie is like i feel sick i feel kind of sick i'll be right back because katie knows she's about to get busted so she like goes to the bathroom and everything and then heather's i mean you show up to you show up to an event with a bunch of women no one will look at you no one will speak to you of course she's freaking you know of course she feels like shit i don't um everyone's like oh my god she must be she must like already know that there's a lie detector and she's already freaking you know

270.065 - 286.375 Gretchen Rossi

So Heather's like, Tamara! Tamara, there's homework, okay? Burning questions that you want to know. Like, it's like yes or no questions. Like, did you, like, really, did you forget to call me on your birthday? Polygraph things.

286.736 - 301.05 Emily Simpson

Easy, easy stuff, Tamara.

303.275 - 327.443 Tamara Judge

so they're like joking about what year it is like persian calendar hebrew year all that stuff katie finally comes out of the bathroom and emma's like okay everyone gather around i just want to give a little persian new year speech i gave you all a pack of questions because i thought in order to move forward maybe we need to ask each other some deeper questions and really get to the truth which by the way none of these questions are deep these are petty questions

Chapter 3: What is the significance of the lie detector test in this episode?

406.689 - 414.582 Ben Mandelker

No one deserves this. And how long have you been holding that line in? Because you set this whole thing up. Like she set up the set and then she's like, oh, wow.

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414.602 - 418.088 Unknown

Don't look like Sharon Stark. Oh, I've got a meatball in my pocket.

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419.17 - 424.879 Gina Kirschenheiter

Hey, wait, that's meatball. You took my dog.

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425.264 - 445.383 Gretchen Rossi

So then the examiner's talking about like, well, it's going to be reading your blood and your sweat and your breathing. And Gina's like, what is the body response? It's like the breathing and everything. And the female examiner with her very intense bangs, I mean, she sort of looks like a side character on like NCIS. She's like, some questions on this test, they're just going to sound odd to you.

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445.783 - 454.832 Gretchen Rossi

It's like, let me see how you respond. But most important thing is that you don't move. Because when you move, it looks like a reaction and a reaction looks like a lie.

454.998 - 467.758 Ben Mandelker

So then Gio's like- So then you're saying what was sitting there maybe like kind of nervously fiddling that everything might sound like a lie. I mean, why are we believing these people?

469.038 - 474.605 Gretchen Rossi

I know that's the thing. Polygraphs really, I don't think you can even really submit a polygraph in a court of law, right? I think there's no two.

474.945 - 480.472 Ben Mandelker

No, but of course, Emily, the lawyer would be the one to bring up the most unreliable form of evidence to the show.

481.573 - 498.275 Gretchen Rossi

Yeah. So, um, the lady is like, is your first name, Emily? Is your first name, Jennifer? I believe so. Thank you so much for asking me that. My name is Jennifer. Thank you. And what's your name? Uh, don't ask me my name. Do you know how to ride a bicycle?

Chapter 4: How do the housewives react to the lie detector results?

550.497 - 561.633 Ben Mandelker

Then they asked Jen, are you currently keeping any secrets? I don't remember secrets. So no, I don't really keep anything. I don't even know my address. Honestly, it's programmed into my car.

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562.914 - 568.502 Gretchen Rossi

I don't even use that deodorant. So then she's like, well, what is half of 10 times five deodorant?

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568.651 - 571.575 Heather Dubrow

Oh, oh, oh, half of 10 times five is five.

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572.556 - 583.292 Ben Mandelker

Right? Oh, well, half of 10 times five. So 10 times five is 35. I don't know math.

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585.715 - 594.287 Heather Dubrow

Half of 35, four. 10 times five is 35. Divide that by two, you get four. Thank you. Next question.

594.503 - 624.327 Ben Mandelker

literal idiot i love it so um they asked heather if she can speak russian and she says um i played it i played russian so i was in the running to have a part in a nora but unfortunately that went to someone else but i did learn a few words for that yes I am still doing research on the role by having sex with Terry, though, because who else would do that but a prostitute?

626.931 - 634.421 Gretchen Rossi

I was in the running to be someone who ran the ice cream shop that got vandalized by young people in Brooklyn. Thank you. Thank you.

635.984 - 644.676 Ben Mandelker

So that was a candy shop. I guess I had ice cream shop. I couldn't believe they destroyed that whole candy store on Coney Island. Isn't Coney Island going through an F?

645.196 - 672.908 Gretchen Rossi

excuse me but when i read for the part it was a frozen yogurt shop and when i didn't get it what i heard is that the actor insisted it be a candy shop and if they had worked with me they could have kept their original version and their vision of a yogurt shop thank you uh so they asked gina if travis has big balls and she's like oh my god like i'm panicking right now because like i haven't seen that many balls like i think they're big

Chapter 5: What accusations arise during the lie detector questioning?

738.294 - 757.065 Gretchen Rossi

She asked this question like it's on the top of any viewer's mind, like no one cares or remembers anything. Like, oh, like Slade being a deadbeat, whatever. That was such a, that was so long ago. And to be like, finally, we're going to get to the bottom of whether or not Tamara called someone. I'm like, Gretchen, you can do better than that, honestly.

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757.105 - 778.121 Ben Mandelker

Yeah. And they show us a reunion like 15 faces ago. And where they ask her, where Slade is like, oh, Michelle said Tamara called her fishing for information. And Tamara's like, ah. So then Shannon is like, well, I'm really not looking forward to going in there for this.

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778.201 - 791.665 Emily Simpson

I just have nightmares. I have nightmares where I am in a lie detector test and they tell me, Shannon. You lied and I didn't lie. I didn't lie. I told the truth. And they're blonde every single time.

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791.886 - 806.322 Ben Mandelker

And they're giving me a lie detector test on the beach. And David is just sitting there eating a chip slowly, slowly as Alfredo takes a grave for me and starts to lower me in while I've still got straps on my arm saying, here lies Shannon.

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807.563 - 808.364 Emily Simpson

Lie door.

810.387 - 811.908 Ben Mandelker

Here lies Shannon, but door.

812.149 - 814.371 Emily Simpson

I didn't lie. I didn't lie.

816.663 - 818.105 Gretchen Rossi

Like, ma'am, just a yes or no question.

821.468 - 824.612 Ben Mandelker

Well, we got Shannon's results back. There are 97 pages.

Chapter 6: How does Katie handle the pressure of the lie detector test?

965.584 - 971.179 Ben Mandelker

Is that okay? Can I close my eyes? Do you have a teddy bear I can hug? That would be great. Can the teddy bear answer my questions?

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972.102 - 972.844 Gretchen Rossi

Can I go see this?

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972.824 - 987.742 Ben Mandelker

Have you planted stories about Tamara in the media? And Gret's like, no. Katie, oh my God, my heart is pumping. Katie, have you leaked any stories to the press? And she goes, no. Oh my God, I feel sick. Oh my God, who wrote this question?

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988.363 - 988.863 Unknown

Oh my God.

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991.987 - 994.41 Ben Mandelker

Do you have a paper bag? Do you have a paper bag?

996.095 - 1019.858 Gretchen Rossi

i by the way i was so stressed watching this i was stressed for katie because she was so stressed like it was honestly it did not look good for katie at this point i was like oh she's really acting super guilty and or maybe it could be the inverse where like you know you're innocent but you feel like you're acting guilty so then you act crazy but like oh i was really stressed about all this and so then they ask um gretchen like did you go to the hospital for naked wasted and she's like no

1019.838 - 1042.082 Gretchen Rossi

And then the lady asks Katie, did Gretchen tell you she was drugged and went to the hospital? And Katie's like, yes. So then they ask Gretchen, did you tell Katie and Jen that you were drugged? And she says no. And then did you tell Kiki Gretchen was drugged and hospitalized? And Katie says no. So there's a lot of like...

1042.062 - 1065.589 Ben Mandelker

yeah there's a lot of but then where would on here but it's so silly that katie's even lying about this and that's that's a huge one that she's lying about because what else where else would kiki monique get that that's crazy why would kiki just make that up be like oh yeah i talked to her and she said she was roofied that deja go tell dave quinn like what it's just such a random thing to make up about somebody

1065.569 - 1090.851 Ben Mandelker

yeah and he's also claiming that gretchen said it so you're claiming that gretchen told you she went to the hospital and was drugged but you didn't tell kiki monique that but kiki came up with that on her own randomly come on katie come on man yeah so katie is saying like that she really hopes that all the naked waste stuff comes to light because she's tired of being the fall person for all of gretchen's lies and gretchen's like

Chapter 7: What are the implications of the lies revealed during the episode?

1143.603 - 1146.086 Ben Mandelker

Get the fuck out of here. You're a liar. Get it out.

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1146.126 - 1158.722 Gretchen Rossi

You're a liar. Remove it. Clear the polygraph. Clear this woman. Clear the bangs. Clear the bangs. Valentina, get the polygraph out of here. Further. Away. Away.

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1160.018 - 1166.108 Ben Mandelker

Yeah, Katie's like, well, that's bullshit. So, Gina, did you say you keep Heather around for her real estate contacts?

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1166.289 - 1166.689 Emily Simpson

No.

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1167.11 - 1172.379 Ben Mandelker

You passed. Bullshit. I don't believe it. And she's like, oh, thank the literal Lord.

1172.419 - 1173.821 Gina Kirschenheiter

Thank literal Jesus.

1174.362 - 1175.344

Yeah.

1176.117 - 1193.184 Gina Kirschenheiter

Gina's like, well, I've never even heard of real estate contacts before. Like, they make contacts for real estate? Like, that's amazing. Are they like AccuView? Like, I don't know about that. Does it just help you see kitchens better? Yeah. So, like, why would I keep Heather around for something I've never even heard of before?

1193.244 - 1199.514 Ben Mandelker

Well, I wouldn't have believed it anyway. But you're the one who asked the question. Oh, yeah, I did. I asked that.

Chapter 8: How do the housewives plan to move forward after the drama?

1227.658 - 1233.225 Emily Simpson

You know, I spoke with her. I did speak with her. So I don't know. It's a long story.

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1234.437 - 1242.831 Gretchen Rossi

Yeah, Tamara's basically like, I said yes because I couldn't remember and I figured it would tell me I was lying if I said no, so I just said yes. You passed.

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1243.912 - 1251.585 Ben Mandelker

You passed by lying. Only Tamara could pass something by fucking lying about it boldly.

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1251.565 - 1275.885 Gretchen Rossi

and it's going to prove that she's a liar if she doesn't admit the truth she just wanted to hear anything to make slade look like he was a deputy there's a manipulation and a calculation and then behind every single thing that that woman does you're also he's not talking about yeah well there's that too but also gretchen like i personally have forgotten about all that and you're the one who keeps on bringing up reminding us that slade

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1276.253 - 1300 Ben Mandelker

like had deadbeat accusations and also that wasn't just stuff that tamra brought like she didn't just bring it up and that's where it came from it wasn't all the blogs and stuff too that lady was like didn't she post uh kickstarter asking for money for the kids funeral because slade wouldn't pay i mean there were a lot of bad stories and they didn't come from tamra they came from her they came from the wife so maybe talk to her and i don't know talk to her

1300.3 - 1306.392 Gretchen Rossi

So then the examiner asked the question to Tamara was, do you want a friendship with Shannon?

1306.413 - 1307.334 Heather Dubrow

She's like, yes.

1307.835 - 1313.086 Gretchen Rossi

She's like, yes, you passed that. And were you told you were on the spectrum of autism?

1313.687 - 1314.369 Heather Dubrow

Yes.

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