Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Hi everyone, welcome back. This is part two of a two-part recap. If you're wondering where part one was, well go check in the feed and be sure to subscribe so that way you always get your episodes. But enough of that, let's get right back into the episode. So Andy's like, all right, Tamara, what were your intentions of bringing this to Gina in the first place?
And I'm curious, did you think about bringing it to Heather first, who's kind of the most personally affected?
What? Huh? Well, me and Heather have had conversations in the past about her beliefs.
And we see unseen footage from the cake party of Tamara saying to Heather...
You yourself said three years ago that you had distanced yourself from Gretchen because you know what? I did not say that to you. Yeah, you did. We were just sitting in Jen's yoga thing in Newport.
Tamara, if you ever bring this up again, it will cost you. I've had enough. Goodbye, Tamara. No, Alfredo. Terrible timing. Terrible.
And so this just goes back to the fact that, of course, they all knew, right?
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Chapter 2: What happens when Tamra confronts Gretchen about her past actions?
You sat down, man. You said, I don't want to touch it. I did not. Because of her political stance and her stances on gays and lesbians. Do not do that, Tamara. Do not do that. Oh, but that's what Tamara does. Bring it up. Stirring the pot. That's what she does. Stirring the pot. Oh, here lies Shamador, killed by a pot that fell on my head because it was stirred too hard.
Well, I felt like you were trying to give it to me, to drop it in my lap or do something with it, and I really didn't want any part of that.
And she's probably right. Tamara's like, Heather, go after her. So Emily is like, well, why did you tell Gina? Because I feel like you put her in an awkward position. Oh, poor Gina. Poor Gina put in an awkward... Gina, this is Gina's role that people... Every single season, people give her something. They give her the ticking time bomb. It's in a box with a bow on it.
And she never seems to realize. And it blows up in her face. She goes, what? Oh, my God. Next season, I'm never going to get in the middle of it ever again.
It's like a camel complaining about carrying water. That's literally what you were designed to do.
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Chapter 3: How does the group react to the unseen footage from the cake party?
It's the only reason Gina still has a job is because she carries everybody's water every fucking season.
She's like a drug mule that keeps getting caught. Like, okay, you know what? Now that I've done my time, I'm never going to smuggle drugs back into this country. Like, hey, ma'am, could you put this up your butt? Okay, sure. Okay. You guys, why do I have diarrhea? Where were we?
Jesus. I'm just like shaking my head. I can't... I'm shaking my head so much I can't even follow these notes. So... So now we're sad for Emily for having to carry this information to camera, which by the way. Yeah. But by the way, Emily, you were right there in that bed with her when you said to Gina, we've had this information for two weeks and we haven't done anything with it.
So, I mean, you guys are just so ridiculous. So Emily's like, but if you know, why not just bring it up yourself, Tamara?
It's like, why am I getting signed for her like homophobics?
gross it's getting gross well I'm asking you I'm trying to understand the lead up to it the lead up to it is that you all had the information you all were all told not to bring it up and Tamara did it anyway because of production and you helped Tamara so just cop to it this is crazy I'm filming a reality show Emily I understand that but I'm saying okay then let me explain don't talk to me condescending first of all well don't talk to me condescending and this is where now the reunion starts to go from like you know
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Chapter 4: What are the implications of Tamra's actions on the group's dynamics?
rage-inducing to now being, back to being funny, because they're just swallowing her stupid shit. So Emily's like, I'm not being condescending at all.
I'm asking you a question. I feel badly for Gina. Oh my God, she used my line. And as her best friend, I felt badly. Oh my God, she did it again. And I felt like she was in a very bad spot.
Yeah. Yeah, why do you have to be such an asshole all the time?
I don't know why. When she screamed that, I just cracked up.
Why do you have to be an asshole all the time?
I'm like, I want to make that.
I'm not an asshole all the time. You're an asshole. And you want to talk about being an asshole all the time. That's you. That's you.
That's you. And y'all was poking at me. And all I've ever done is be supportive of you.
Uh-oh. Oh, I know. Here we go again. Where was your advocacy when I was talking to size 10? Susan Bender slack.
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Chapter 5: How does Gina feel about being put in an awkward position?
What? Call you shit like what? What are you even talking about?
And then Gina and Heather at the same time go.
But you were the one that called her an asshole. I love Timothy like, why are you such an asshole?
And then say like, why are you saying things like that to me? I was like, oh, good.
So good to laugh again. So now they all just start yelling at each other and talking over each other.
And Tamara's like, I've always been so nice to you. I've always been so nice to you.
No, you haven't been. You treated me like shit for years. Then I forgave you very recently.
Yeah, well, you treat me like shit for years, too.
I love that now. Tamara, the queen of like, oh, so we're going to go back in time.
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Chapter 6: What leads to the accusations against Tamra during the reunion?
And so Tamara's like, well, they unlike the accounts. And Emily says, well, I don't know. I mean, you can't just sit across from someone and accuse them of doing something without knowing for sure. Let's just disregard my entire two seasons past with Katie.
It's like, Gina, shouldn't you have done this due diligence before you made your attack?
Two weeks ago. Yeah. Two weeks ago.
It's like, this is what I can't stand about Gina. So she sits on this information for two weeks, which is already kind of like, hmm. But like, okay, whatever. I'll let you have your two weeks. I'll let you have your two weeks of processing. And then you do this. You put it out there. And then you're like, but then I decided to look, and she doesn't like anything. Why on God's green earth?
You had an entire... 10-hour flight from LAX to Amsterdam. Why did you not get on your laptop once and say, hmm, maybe I should just... This is a very serious thing when you go on to TV and you're like, hey, you like homophobic and transphobic shit. Why did you not do your due diligence before instead of after?
And this is not a defense of Gretchen, but this is a, like, you're not going to make me feel bad for you. Feel bad. Yeah. You know, because you're too, like, thick to do your research before, like, get all your ducks in a row before you do your attacking. Come on. Right.
So she's like, yeah, but here's the root of the problem.
Like, let's not talk about roots, please. You and Gretchen go for tit for tat all the time, and I feel like it's all stemming from that. And to be honest, at this point, I want to remove myself.
Too late, Gina. Gina, you still have the sit on your face from when the bomb exploded in your hands.
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Chapter 7: How do the housewives address the leaked information and its consequences?
I mean, it was, well, actually, I did take a moment to look at the Mackenzie Child sale.
That was a very good sale and I got myself a new picture. But then we looked at the homophobic stuff and, you know, it was, you know, you wake up the next day and you say, how did this happen?
Well, has anyone since Amsterdam seen any articles or credible sources talking about the post that Gretchen has claimed to have liked? And Emily's like, no. Yes, the New York Times ran a full three-day story on it. Why do you need a credible story? They were there. They're printed.
Is this almost like a legal thing? Does Bravo have to kind of present kind of almost like a fair ā these questions that sort of ā that can present a... What's the right word? Does Bravo have to ask these questions so that way Gretchen does not look like her character's been assassinated or it's like a defamation thing? Like, hey, wait a second.
We're presenting both sides of this situation or a full perspective of the whole situation so that way Gretchen can't turn around and say, hey, I went on your show and I was falsely accused of being a homophobe and that's ruined my entire reputation and now I'm going to sue you, Bravo. Do you think maybe that's why they have to sort of like...
say, wait a second, did anyone, was there any further research? What did you do? They're sort of implicitly advocating regression in this moment, and I wonder if that's almost like they have to.
I don't know. I mean, I have no idea. I would doubt it, because Bravo is Bravo.
Bravo is fucking Bravo.
Bravo is Bravo. So I don't know, but... I mean, I don't know. I just think it's funny that now they're all like, oh, my God, we're so sorry, Gretchen, for what we did to you. We maligned you. And Emily's like, well, I searched for it because I was trying to find something legit and I couldn't find anything. Did you not see the post with all the screenshots on it, ma'am?
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Chapter 8: What are the final thoughts on the season's controversies?
And so then Gretchen really goes for it.
She's like, well, you're not understanding. From my point of view, it felt like it was being plotted and planned. And it brought back memories of naked wasted. And of course, we're going to get naked wasted and we're going to make her do something stupid again. And you know what? It's so hard to sit here when someone's planning against you.
And then she does that thing where she can't really move her face, but she tries to sob. She's like, ugh.
It's so fucked up. Do you remember? Do you know how traumatized I was by naked Weezy? I had to go to the hospital, not go to the hospital. It was so difficult for me. I mean, I was basically drugged, not drugged. It was terrible. I'll bring on the tears, Crescent.
says Tamara, which is hilarious. I mean, they're both doing their biggest, they're doing their biggest, the biggest things to win over the sympathy of the audience. You know what, Andy? This is life-changing. This is life-destroying. And you brought that up. You brought up the fact that that McKenzie Child sale was over a day earlier, and I was on there browsing that website.
I couldn't find a good deal for the life of me, and no one even told me that the sale was over.
What are we talking about, by the way? Well, you know what else is life-changing? Seeing that I drug somebody. Our business is drugging people.
I know, right?
I have gotten so many death threats, and I've gotten so much shit because of the stuff that you are out discriminating, disseminating, telling other people. Disseminating? You think I'm just sticking my hand up some horse's asshole? No, disseminating. I'm not disseminating anything, bitch. You are out disseminating. You're a disseminator. Hey, guess what? Guess what month comes after November?
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