How AI Spending Is Fueling the Economy Overall
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Hi Talis. Hi Miriam. Good to see you. Good to be back from two weeks of vacation.
Welcome back. Wasn't the same without you.
Well, you you persevered. The t last two episodes were great. I listened to them. Um but we have a really interesting conversation today. Um we're talking about tariff refunds.
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Yeah. Somehow companies are getting this money back, which we're gonna talk about later. We also go into a lot of other things, including the consumer, the Fed, AI, employment. But first we have to talk about something that happened this past week, and that is SpaceX reported its first quarterly earnings report.
Yep, it was SpaceX's first uh earnings report since its IPO. SpaceX's stock has been down. Uh the question was whether or not a good earnings report might kind of give it a little liftoff, uh should we say. Uh but it it did not. It did not. The stock was down double digits, you know, in the early going as we're talking now after its earnings report. And I think the market was focused on the same thing it's been focused on. with a lot of other hyperscalers, uh which is It's spending a ton. There's no end in sight to its spending. And what's the payoff?
Right. And I think what SpaceX is specifically spending on is its next generation of rockets, which are going to be the key to being able to launch data centers into space. And that is a big part of its valuation, as we've discussed on previous episodes.
Yeah, it really seems like the market is starting to differentiate between companies in the AI space that are spending money and also seeing those benefits in their core business. Microsoft stock, for example, reacted very positively to its earnings report for that reason. Because it has a cloud business that sells the computing services that go into AI. SpaceX kind of seems like it's falling into the meta camp, which is that Yes, obviously there's enormous opportunity for SpaceX to be a player in AI in one form or another, whether that's through Data centers in space, whether that's through Grok and monetizing that through the the X AI, former Twitter kind of ecosystem. And the same thing with Meta.
AI could be useful to its advertising business, to the enjoyment that people have in social media.
Trevor Burrus But it's just not really clear how yet.
It's just not clear how.
And so investors are kind of like why are we spending all this money to get there? With Microsoft there's a direct payoff. Right. So I mean I think that makes sense and investors are definitely willing to reward that where they can see the ROI. And we saw that with a lot of the hyperscaler earnings. A lot of them actually reported really good earnings, which we'll talk about later with Osong Kwan.
Yeah, and and the time frame for these things is not soon, right? Like Moffat Nathanson analysts were writing about SpaceX and they were talking about that it would take 143 launches of the Starship rocket to put just a gigawatt of Computing but I always wanna say gigawatt. Gigawatt of computing power into space. And that would be like what a single large AI data center does. So like big, big, big future potential, but uh the the the payoff is just it's a it's a long-term story.
Aaron Powell I mean a lot of people have faith in Musk. They think, you know, well, he said he was going to do a self-driving car and he did.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the opening overview of the episode’s main themes?
0:00–5:02
2
How did SpaceX’s first quarterly earnings report affect its stock and market sentiment?
5:02–10:10
3
Why are investors rewarding AI‑heavy companies like Microsoft and what does that mean for AI spending?
10:10–15:23
4
What are tariff refunds and how are they expected to boost consumer‑staples earnings?
15:23–20:19
5
Which upcoming consumer earnings (Home Depot, Target, Lowe’s, etc.) should investors watch and why?
20:19–25:03
6
How is AI expected to impact the labor market and job replacement fears?
25:03–29:53
7
What is the outlook for the Fed’s policy and interest rates in relation to the AI cap‑ex cycle?
29:53–34:39
8
What are the key takeaways and final thoughts on AI spending as a driver of the broader economy?
34:39–36:47
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