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本期节目的嘉宾是《吐槽大会》导演以及播客《不是办法》的主播中二怪。我们借着一部近期引起巨大争议的纪录片《离开梦幻岛》展开探讨了儿童保护，创伤修复，个体和社会责任以及权力关系等话题。配乐：Heal the world - Michael Jackson“Steve说”被评为2019苹果最佳播客，是一个基于泛心理学视角，以拓展意识边界和促进个人成长为目标的深度对谈和问答类节目。主播史秀雄是独立心理咨询师，译有《人生十二法则》，著有《假性亲密关系》，也是播客《Man立》的主播。Support Steve说
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