Abbie Chatfield

Okay.

Well, thanks for that.

You could have said clean slate, dumb feminists like me, dumb, dumb girls.

Yeah.

Sorry, guys.

All right.

All I know is virtute, non verbis, my school motto, actions, not words.

All right.

So they have to believe in some sort of clean slate, I'm going to translate that for you, where they feel socialisation, quote unquote, and brainwashing people from the start will make everything good and solve all the problems.

Again, the issue is here.

They see patriarchal conditioning as the norm and feminism and respecting women as brainwashing.

They believe that men have to be – and, again, it's like you're proving our point that things are so bad that it might require some brainwashing.

It might require socialization.

He's put it in quotation marks as though that's the craziest thing in the world.

Oh, and what?

Socialization is going to fix this?

You are, and I believe this is true, but what you are doing is you are doing bioessentialism and saying that boys and men automatically do not respect women and should not respect women biologically, and it would require extreme socialization and brainwashing from birth to solve any of these problems.

They're so close, Amy.

They're so close.

Keeps going.