Andrea Dunlop

What was that sort of process of revelation for you?

So you were just talking about how one of the things people have said to you is sort of like,

why didn't you speak up?

Which, by the way, is an unfair expectation to put on any child that's being abused or any young person that's in an abuse situation, especially one as complicated as Munchausen by proxy.

So yeah, so you were saying that you were making comments sometimes to people in your life

And there were obviously signs.

There were obviously red flags for what was happening to you.

And I have to believe that if your dad in particular understood what Munchausen by proxy looked like, if the doctors who were treating you, which we'll talk about in a moment, had maybe better understood what Munchausen by proxy was –

You know, there might have been some more intervention, but that should never be put on the person who's being victimized, especially because how intense the psychological manipulation is.

You know, like victims in the midst of this are often not going to have that framing.

And so we can't expect victims to be like, hey, I'm being victimized in this specific way.

Here is the intervention.

Please execute it on my behalf.

Right.

Right.

Yeah.

I mean, I think, you know, yours is a case where it's not always this obvious.

Yours is a case that was pretty obvious.

I think that's almost like the classic thing, right?

Of like, you know, a couple of things that came up in your case, right?