Anne Applebaum

Yeah, and they were talking to Iraqis all the time and they were, you know, trying to build a government in Iraq and try to build justification for something new in Iraq and so on.

So it was part of what the U.S.

seemed to be doing or trying to do.

And here there's nothing.

There's just no interest in what happens to people on the ground.

It's also just the lack of interest in humans.

They're not interested in the prosperity and well-being of Americans.

Trump keeps saying he doesn't care about inflation.

He's not interested in the financial situation of Americans.

And I think that's true.

I think he isn't interested.

They're not interested in what happens to Iran or to Iranians.

They're not interested in the Epstein victims.

They are entirely focused on the online world.

What can they say or do that creates engagement?

What creates a good clip?

It's not even really about headlines anymore because they don't care about newspapers.

They care about the visuals, the engagement, what the podcasters will say.

They're inside the world that they created.

That's the stuff they read.