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Arash Azizi

πŸ‘€ Speaker
481 total appearances

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The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

They're getting worse by the day.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

There are logistical problems in Iran.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

tons of sectors, but that doesn't mean economy will collapse.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

One of my favorite things about all of this is that we all use these different terms, like the weakening of the regime, the collapse of economy.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

What does it really mean?

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

If it means that people go out and there is no bread to get and they'll die out of hunger, no, that's not gonna happen.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

Right.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

Man is a country of 90 million.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

It has tons of borders, different countries.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

It has different sort of resourcefulness methods.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

It will be able to keep something going on for nine years, just nine months.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

I mean, you know, and whatever blockade you have, the longer it holds, the more cracks they'll find.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

The blockade has been terrible, but.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

Is it terrible enough that something magically will happen and the whole place collapses?

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

That's not going to happen.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

Now, is it enough that they would put so much pressure on the powers that be that they'll either turn on each other or give unprecedented compromises or, you know, those things are possible, but also not so easy to achieve and by nature unpredictable, which is why...

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

You know, it's very interesting.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

President Trump talked like he's found some genius methods.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

It's like if he just comes and attacks everybody and kills all the leaders and put this, okay, they'll all capitulate.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

You know, if governance and statehood and warfare were so simple, everybody has big planes and they would just start it.