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Arash Azizi

πŸ‘€ Speaker
481 total appearances

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The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

And you know why they're a minority?

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

Because their positions are ridiculously unrealistic, basically.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

You know, it's like, oh, fight America, fight Israel.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

I mean, they're not doing the fighting, actually, right?

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

So they do give speeches and they mobilize people on the streets.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

That's the kind of thing they do.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

But they're not the one actually doing the fighting.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

So they have unrealistic fighting proposals.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

It used to be the Iranian political inside the Iranian regime

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

They were reformists, they are, they exist, but they're incredibly marginalized.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

Reformists who are Democrats, but they're democratizers.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

They believe in democracy.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

They want Iran to democratize, and that's why they've lost, right?

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

Then there are centrists who don't want democracy.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

I call them centrists.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

Moderates is a term they use themselves, actually.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

But they are west-facing.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

They want deals with the West and all that.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

So these IRGC guys that we're talking about are neither of these.

The Bulwark Podcast
Arash Azizi and Jodi Kantor: Iran Has the Leverage

They're neither reformists nor centrists.