Ariana Madix

Yeah.

It's now hard for me to look back at nine years.

And if I tell myself he's a pathological liar, then that means that the last nine years of my life were potentially a lie.

But he did say stuff on that finale episode to Sheena, like, we weren't happy and we bought the house as a band-aid.

And I'm like, a band-aid to who?

Because that wasn't where I was at at all.

Or things like there were a lot of things from his perspective that have been said in that episode and otherwise that it's like, oh, OK, well, that's maybe how you were thinking, but that's nowhere near what

It was full blown at that point.

I didn't know that.

Initiated couples therapy?

Yes, but it had been brought up by one or both of us over years of being together.

I mean, he was just we got into an argument one day.

Well, you saw on the show we had that conversation on the couch and it was that conversation.

And like one other one that we have where it was like, I think we should go to couples therapy.

I was like, absolutely.

I would love that.

We should do that.

But it was those things in those conversations that led us to that.

Yep.

To going.