Barbara Dreaver

So tracked them down and they turned out to have extremely bad reputations and taking the, you know, not replanting, destroying forests and destroying the country.

So I exposed that, and so that whole deal got stopped as a result of that story.

Wow.

Yeah, so proud of that.

And then the other one is people-based, and that would have been the Focus on Children adoption agency from the U.S., where they—oh, gosh, that's horrific to cover, but—

They were adopting children who weren't orphans to American parents.

And they're basically, it was basically trafficking, right?

And, you know, they'd hand the kids over to the American parents here at McDonald's in New Zealand.

The parents thought they were real orphans.

And the Samoan parents were being told, you'll get your kids back.

It's like a whangai system, you know.

So the adoption in the Pacific is a sharing.

It's not a… Ownership.

Yeah.

But it was just a different concept.

And so they thought they were told they were going to get their kids back when they're 18.

They'll be educated.

They'll be, you know, have a really well to do and look after you and everything.

And it was always poor parents that they approached.

And then the children were put into a nanny house, a nanny house, for three months so that they would be officially orphans and then farmed off.