Ben Greenfield

And as a part of that, I kind of mapped out a couple of ideas for books.

One on the idea of

Like I, guilty as charged, have kind of preached the message of like, you know, become boundless.

Right.

Which I think in the in the whole human optimization world can often mean, oh, like, be perfect.

Right.

Like have your five hour morning routine where you're, you know, huddled up inside your hyperbaric chamber and, you know, checking all the boxes and doing all the things you're back to the biohacking being expensive.

Um, but I think if you deny the fact that we are broken, right, that at the end of the day, we're going to have porous bones and muscles that become sarcopenic and look like beef jerky and going to have plaqued brains, like that will happen no matter how healthy you live, like at some point, unless you

you pass away by getting hit by a bus, like your body will degrade.

And if you try to just like deny the fact that you're broken and just keep piling all the Botox and the biohacks and all the things on top of your like fear of being broken, then you're going to be a pretty unhappy individual.

Like you will always be just like running away from dying.

But if you turn and embrace the brokenness and instead do what you can to be the best version of your broken self, then I think it's a much happier way to live.

It sounds like it could be a depressing way to live, like, oh, broken, I'm sick, but you are.

Like, face it, you will always be fighting chaos and entropy from the minute you get out of bed in the morning, and it will get worse and worse as you age.

But if you accept that and you're happy about it, back to contentedness, and you just have the very best combination of healthspan and lifespan that you can achieve, I think it's a better way to live.

And so that's my idea for one book called something like Broken.

That's profound.

Call Dr. Brian Johnson, by the way.

And then the other book I want to do is just about all the myths in the health world.

like all the things that are highly dogmatic but have way more nuances to them.