Brad Watts
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first heard Nov 2024
last heard Nov 2024
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And I was like, okay, that was insane. Like double murder on Bocas del Toro is crazy because I was right there. And you think, oh, that was kind of a small event. And then you're like, well, there's two dead bodies. It wasn't that small. And then you see it in the national news. You're like, oh, I saw this whole thing happen.
I will say not really, because here's the thing. Maybe if you see massive combat trauma, like you see someone's head explode because they got shot with a rifle, maybe I would have some sort of weird PTSD from that. But when you see people get stabbed, it kind of looks like somebody getting punched in the stomach sort of slowly, and then they just fall down. And you're like, oh.
Or I'm wired like a psychopath and that stuff just doesn't affect me.
Yeah, because I'm just kind of like, okay, I mean, that was a bummer for those guys. I didn't know them. I wanted to try to help them. There was nothing I could do. I mean, the one guy was barely moving. The other guy wasn't moving. They had already bled out by the time I got back down there to do anything. I wasn't going to intervene when they were fighting. That's for damn sure. Sure.
So I don't know. I don't know if something is wrong with me or if that is just so surreal that your brain is like, well, that didn't look like what I thought a murder would look like, so I'm fine. I don't know. Bit of both, I think. Bit of both. Yep. Bit of both. Actually, if anybody out there has seen something crazy like this and it affected them way more or didn't affect them at all,
I'm curious about your perspective, because now I'm kind of like, should I have been more affected by this? Because I was 22. It's not like I was grisly 44-year-old Jordan who's seen a bunch of stuff. I was 22 years old, and I was still just like, man, that was crazy. I didn't lose any sleep over that, really, I swear, which is maybe now more disturbing than I realized.
Anyways, all right, we got some fun ones. We got some doozies. What is the first thing out of the mailbag?
Wow, that's an intense letter. Gabe, that had to be hard to read, I think.
So yeah, it's just, it's like not cringe, but it's kind of like, oh gosh, I don't know.
Yeah. A hundred percent. It's a hard subject to talk about even when you're a parent and you're dealing with it. So yeah, I just appreciate you sharing all this with us. As a dad, this is also really important for me to understand because child sexuality is such a complex... By the way, two words that I was not expecting to put together ever. It's such a complicated topic.
And it can be hard to know what's normal, what's not normal, what deserves to be addressed, what to let go. So I appreciate the chance to learn alongside you here. We wanted to consult with an expert about all this. So we reached out to Brad Watts, licensed professional counselor. Brad specializes in working with families where sibling sexual abuse has occurred.
He's also the author of the book, Sibling Sexual Abuse, A Guide for Confronting America's Silent Epidemic. So really an ideal expert when it comes to this sort of stuff. And the first thing Brad said was that he was impressed with how you've handled a very difficult situation.
He was also impressed by how directly you confronted such an uncomfortable issue, how you used the incident to continue to teach your kids about appropriate boundaries, keeping open lines of communication. And I second that. This is, as I've mentioned right at the top, not easy to talk about, especially when it comes to your own kids.
So his take was, on the surface, when you look at the age of your children here, This behavior could fall within the range of normal sexual curiosity and exploratory behavior. But there are some aspects to your story that were concerning to him.
And the reason, Brad explained, is that in his experience, when clinicians see sexual curiosity between siblings, they're typically around the same age, which is what's going on here, There's the fact that your daughter might have been moaning when this happened.
There's the fact that your daughter was clearly pushing for this, that she was specific with what she wanted, which seems to be sexual gratification, and your son was clearly uncomfortable with it but didn't stop. And then there's the fact that your daughter took it a step further when she actually threatened to get her brother in trouble if he didn't continue.
To quote Brad here, there are at least three factors that take this well beyond typical childhood sexual curiosity. And they did make Brad wonder. Wonder, I want to be clear, not suspect, Whether your daughter has been abused or exposed to pornography or something like that and might be engaging in what he called sexually reactive behaviors.
Because given what you shared, Brad did wonder whether someone said similar things to her or showed her certain things or she saw something and that's caused her to now repeat the same behavior with her brother. Who knows? Maybe another kid at preschool or daycare showed her some stuff. I don't know.
Brad actually said that he's seen too many of those situations because I know like you're thinking like, where would they have gotten this little kids, man? They get an iPod touch and it's off to the races, especially if they have older siblings.
Now, I'm heartened to hear that when you ask them if they had ever seen anything like this happen or if it ever happened with anyone else, they both said no. But you also can't really fully confirm that right now. And maybe your kids sensed that it was important to say no, so it's still a question mark. Because again, in Brad's view, the extent of the behavior is kind of not normal for this age.
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