Bryan Johnson

What temperature?

What kind of sauna?

How long?

Do you ice your testicles or not?

How do you measure your heat shock proteins?

Like the little minions going out and doing the good shit.

Like you have to go to this degree, which is extensive.

And then I bought a bunch of equipment.

Like I have a couple, like, I don't know, a million or two of equipment at the house, all the various things.

And then just all the money for the experimentation and measurement.

But the actual things we've learned are low cost.

Like I can take everything I've learned and give it to somebody and they can put it into their life like at a very, very low cost.

So it's been really just about, there's actually very few therapies that cost a lot of money that are worth it.

Most things don't work.

Most things are bullshit.

And so that's been the process of like spending the money to figure out what does work and then how those things work.

So this is the thing is, yes, but you have to make sure that you're getting the right amount of red light therapy for the right duration of time.

And so if it's like a face mask, whether it's a panel, and so we do things like we'll take a panel, we'll measure the irradiance, like how much exposure you're getting at what distance, what duration, if you're looking for like deep healing or longevity.

So again, I don't want to make this overly complicated, but it matters.

And so we try to be very precise.