Cameron Brown

Who do we attack first in the market?

How do we position ourselves in the market?

That can be a little difficult.

But I mean, realistically, we just kept showing up every day.

I know how silly it kind of sounds, but we show up every day and we keep working on our products.

And then eventually, once we realized we could beat the ticketing market, we realized that's the way that we can attack this chicken and egg situation.

So that just becomes so much easier.

So really, it's just kind of about showing up every day.

It's good when you have a co-founder.

Uh, especially one that, you know, you can value and trust because there are days when, you know, I'm down and I don't know that really moving forward is, uh, in certain directions will be the right thing.

But then he says, Hey, you know, I just finished this feature and then I get a new idea and then we just keep bouncing off each other and going.

So we've been doing that for a couple of years now.

So you kind of just keep going.

You keep your head down.

You know, you get a lot of no's, but that just means you pivot your business model so you can fit the market better.

Yeah, so I'm kind of the technical end here.

And it's been a process of using different services, replacing this with that.

A fair amount of trial and error.

The very first time

we released the beta version.