Cameron Brown

We had people using it and from a very tech savvy spot, I designed the app.

It was a little complex, not necessarily as intuitive for a brand new user.

And we got some feedback like, this is great.

I don't really know how to use it though.

So, you know, then it's massive redesign where, you know, now I have to put my frame.

OK, what if I never saw this before and it wasn't like my idea?

How do I position, you know, the app to where someone can come in on their very first use and be like, oh, this is super simple.

I understand what's happening here.

So user feedback is super important.

And then just making sure that you have thorough testing.

We went through a period where it's kind of difficult to, when you're developing quickly and there's only two of you, to thoroughly test everything.

And next thing you know, some niche bug seems to happen on one specific type of device that you didn't have any idea about.

You know, and then you're rushing to get a fix out.

So I'd say those are kind of the two places where we've learned the most is just, you know, to make sure you can have a lot of confidence in your product through adequate testing and listen to the users.

And if I could add one last thing, the network.

I mean, you always have to keep building your network, right?

I mean, we we got here because we worked really hard.

But then also you have to keep going out.

You have to keep talking to investors.

You have to keep meeting people.