Caroline Goyder

So the back story to that is that I did do a lot of work on it and I spent time with Denise working on script.

I spent time thinking about the prop and I spent quite a lot of time rehearsing with a stand up comedy coach.

It's not a funny talk, but stand up comedy coaches are just good at nailing it.

And when I got there on the day, one of the organizers said, you're the most prepared person in this room.

And I was like, you bet I am.

I mean, it's like any tennis player will tell you or any executive will tell you, you can't do it without a coach.

You can't cut your own hair because you can't see around the back.

You can't coach your own talk because you can't see your blind spots.

So you and I both know that coaching is...

essential and even when you become this thing called an expert a coach is even more important because nothing is static learning has to evolve and if you're not evolving you're not an expert oh it's so that's so true and back to our conversation we were having earlier with all the ai and technology changes and updates we constantly have to be learning and growing

I really am the archetypal teacher who teaches what she needs.

And the reason I'm so passionate about teaching people

to speak with calm and control and confidence is that when I got to drama school, you know, 2000 BC, they said to me, you have no presence.

You're not centered.

Your voice is thin.

You're not grounded.

You're not listening.

And I, you know, a litany of kind of complaint that you often get at drama school.

And I had no idea what to do with that.

And I thought there's nothing I can do.