Catharine Arnston

So you have to build that into your schedule of planned success.

I'd like to make a suggestion.

I think it's on – it's not Netflix.

I'm trying to remember the movie.

Anyways, the movie is called Very Ralph, and it's the documentary about Ralph Lauren.

And I loved it because Grant, he's in fashion, of course, but all the things that he experienced were exactly what I was experiencing.

He had, he just started, he started with making ties himself.

Why ties?

Because it was very European.

And of course, at that time in the forties, everyone in America was wearing skinny ties and,

And he tried to get into Bloomingdale's.

And long story short, he eventually hired all designers.

He had the eye.

So his eye for excellence in design got him started.

But when he started actually making clothes and making and expanding, he outsourced everything.

Well, I'm sorry, he hired designers.

But it was him that made the final choices.

And he built an empire based on understanding his customer and what they were trying to achieve in their lifestyle.

It's an absolutely fabulous film.

I saw it on an airplane.