Christine Miles

Yeah, for the other person, you mean?

Yes.

Yeah, so I think all skills can be used for good or for evil, right?

But I think that when we help people be vulnerable and uncover more about themselves and what they need or what they want or how to get there, then we can serve them better.

So I think that when you understand and you get to the real issues, the real person, then that you help them, it's service to them.

and help them understand who they are so they can drive those results.

My dad used to say, I can't just know about their financial needs.

I have to understand what they want for their kids, what they want for their uncle, their aunt, the whole family picture, so that I'm not just serving just one cause here, but their bigger picture needs.

Yeah, so we teach elementary classrooms through a licensable program to business leaders.

So whether you're a large technology company or you're a fourth grader, the tools are really very similar.

And so the only way to get good at something is to do it the same way every time.

Any process is make it systematic.

This is how I hope to scale and plan to scale this in an educational way.

So those tools are all based on a hiking metaphor.

Like I said, a map is one of those tools.

We know that stories follow a certain path.

If we're always looking for a story, we know that's what we're looking for.

Well, we better get the beginning.

We better get the struggle.

We better get the different parts.