Col. Hamish de Bretton-Gordon OBE

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TRIGGERnometry · Britain Isn't Ready For A Real War - Col. Hamish de Bretton-Gordon OBE · 5 Aug 2026 podcast

You go forward, chaps.

And by the way, if you turn around, we're going to shoot you.

Which is why, again, looking at Ukraine, one of the main reasons Russia is losing 30,000 people a month, 10 times what Ukraine's doing, is about morale.

It's also about training.

But it is something that is built over time, but is absolutely essential to be a successful, not necessarily individual, but a successful group.

And that's where leadership comes in.

Well, absolutely.

But at the moment, we are not at war.

So you're absolutely right.

In the early days of Iraq and early days of Afghanistan, that was a problem.

Still, the most frightening thing I've ever done is driven around Iraq in what's called a snatched Land Rover, basically an unarmored Land Rover.

Wow.

When you know that people were dying, lots of British soldiers were killed in these Land Rovers.

And that was really tricky, you know, when people were saying, right, you go out on patrol and you're still thinking, bloody hell, if I go over an improvised explosive device, I am toast.

Now, by the time we got well into the Afghan campaign, we were getting protected mobility vehicles.

I mean, I still do remember sitting in the back of a Warrior driving from Lashkar Gah up to Sangin.

when you're just thinking at any moment this thing's going to go pop.

But because it had the right kit on it, you sort of knew that you've got a good chance of surviving.

So to answer your direct question, because we are not at war now, that is what people like me are trying to beat the drum of people over there to fund.

But whether we can get them to understand that, that is the key thing.

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