Darby Saxbe

or fulfilling kids' every need, right?

Like there's this concept of the good enough mother in psychology, which is that it's actually like no one can ever be a perfect mother.

That is great to hear.

And it's not even great for kids to have a perfect mother because it's where a mother falls short that kids learn their own autonomy, right?

Like they have to develop their own solutions when moms don't fulfill their every need.

Yeah.

And I say in the book, like great fathers are made not born.

It's like we think of caregiving as this like innately wired trait.

And it's really more like a skill that we learn and that we develop through practice and through time.

And so it's kind of up to us to decide if we want to make that investment.

And if we do, then I think our kids see that and appreciate that, that we're trying.

He's very chill.

He's patient.

He's been a recording engineer for a long time.

So he's worked with bands, which I think is a really good quality for being a father because, you know, he can like gently correct a band without antagonizing them or

Or like give suggestions, but like still preserve a good relationship.

So he's kind of like the guy that like he taught our daughter how to drive.

Like he coaches our son's baseball team.

Like he's kind of a natural teacher.

And I think that's a good quality.