Dr. Caroline Fleck

Yeah. But influence is kind of a change agenda. Like I'm trying to push you in some direction rather than the acceptance of just what is.

Yeah. But influence is kind of a change agenda. Like I'm trying to push you in some direction rather than the acceptance of just what is.

Yeah. So it just kind of the one kind of bleeds out of the other, as I kind of described earlier with that one patient. It's this like, oh, my God, like I totally see where you're coming from. I totally valid. You know, this is all valid. I see you. And I think, you know, once that's, and I keep saying once that's landed and like, to me, it's really clear having done this a lot, there is a look.

Yeah. So it just kind of the one kind of bleeds out of the other, as I kind of described earlier with that one patient. It's this like, oh, my God, like I totally see where you're coming from. I totally valid. You know, this is all valid. I see you. And I think, you know, once that's, and I keep saying once that's landed and like, to me, it's really clear having done this a lot, there is a look.

You feel it. Yeah. There's a moment. And after that moment, then there's a door that opens and you can say like, but is there a better way for us to come at this? Yeah. You know, I'm, I think that if you had, okay, so I imagine if you could regulate, like if you could just bring down that intensity, you wouldn't have come at me so angrily, right? I think that's what we need to work on.

You feel it. Yeah. There's a moment. And after that moment, then there's a door that opens and you can say like, but is there a better way for us to come at this? Yeah. You know, I'm, I think that if you had, okay, so I imagine if you could regulate, like if you could just bring down that intensity, you wouldn't have come at me so angrily, right? I think that's what we need to work on.

Oh, I actually just read this article about, there's this technique you can try called the mammalian diet. When you put your face in cold water and you come out, it drops your heart blood pressure and then you feel better, whatever. So then I, at that point I transitioned into, yeah, skill building.

Oh, I actually just read this article about, there's this technique you can try called the mammalian diet. When you put your face in cold water and you come out, it drops your heart blood pressure and then you feel better, whatever. So then I, at that point I transitioned into, yeah, skill building.

Let's try this. Let's try that.

Let's try this. Let's try that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'm doing well. How are you?

I'm doing well. How are you?

I'm doing well. How are you?

I am excited to be here.

I am excited to be here.

I am excited to be here.

No, no, common mistake, but that's not what we're talking about. We're also not talking about agreement, which I want to clarify upfront because a lot of people confuse validation. If I validate somebody, I must agree with them, which is not the case.

No, no, common mistake, but that's not what we're talking about. We're also not talking about agreement, which I want to clarify upfront because a lot of people confuse validation. If I validate somebody, I must agree with them, which is not the case.