Dr. Caroline Fleck

No, because I am seeing like that's their world. That's their perspective. I do see that. I'm not saying anything I don't believe. Now, here's the thing. It's acceptance and change, not acceptance or change. They are two sides of the same coin. So I can validate. And then once there's once I see that that has resonated, I switch gears. OK, but let's look at this for a second.

No, because I am seeing like that's their world. That's their perspective. I do see that. I'm not saying anything I don't believe. Now, here's the thing. It's acceptance and change, not acceptance or change. They are two sides of the same coin. So I can validate. And then once there's once I see that that has resonated, I switch gears. OK, but let's look at this for a second.

If you keep responding to people in this way when they miss a message from you, I'm worried you're going to start burning people out. Because the other thing I felt just now was attacked and scared and not in a good way. All right.

If you keep responding to people in this way when they miss a message from you, I'm worried you're going to start burning people out. Because the other thing I felt just now was attacked and scared and not in a good way. All right.

Is there anything we could have done, do you think, that could have brought down the intensity just a little bit so you could give me that message but not, you know, make me want to hide under the couch?

Is there anything we could have done, do you think, that could have brought down the intensity just a little bit so you could give me that message but not, you know, make me want to hide under the couch?

So that's it. That's that combination. You see how I'm going from validation to change.

So that's it. That's that combination. You see how I'm going from validation to change.

Right.

Right.

Yeah. And the second is copying, which is that mimicry that I do.

Yeah. And the second is copying, which is that mimicry that I do.

That's right. So it's a two-parter. It's that little game that you're playing in the head, and then it's nonverbals. All right. And what was the first thing to go out the window once we were in lockdown from COVID?

That's right. So it's a two-parter. It's that little game that you're playing in the head, and then it's nonverbals. All right. And what was the first thing to go out the window once we were in lockdown from COVID?

Proximity.

Proximity.

I mean, all of it, I guess. Gestures get really awkward. Everything.

I mean, all of it, I guess. Gestures get really awkward. Everything.

Everything.

Everything.