Dr. Chantelle Thomas
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first heard Jul 2026
last heard 30 Jul
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On the methamphetamine use disorder, one of our first participants who I loved working with was really wonderful, but had avoided intersecting with any part of the mental health system because of the stigma attached to methamphetamine use disorder and was so careful about disclosing that because of, I can only presume because of the tremendous shame.
And was so guarded, in fact, that I was a little bit nervous about bringing him into the trial because I thought, well, if he can't develop a relationship with us or a baseline level of capacity to kind of have those kind of conversations, will this be safe for him if we don't know him well enough to be able to adequately prepare him?
Because that is also part of the preparation process is tell me about the things that are most difficult in your life, the things that would be hardest to encounter.
And you want people to be able to
talk about that.
And anyone who couldn't talk about that in preparation in the trials, we wouldn't have felt comfortable proceeding with them.
So back to my kind of boost for therapy, like talk about the difficult thing, even if you can't talk about it, talk about how difficult it is to talk about that thing as part of the preparation process.
And I remember in his session, deep into it, he was like, I just needed someone to talk to.
I just needed therapy.
And I was like,
I mean, of course, I'm totally biased because I'm a psychologist, but I think a lot of people do realize that some of what's so challenging about these conditions they're navigating is they leave them in complete isolation from other people.
And so this idea of connectedness, I mean, this is also a thing that's being studied mechanistically around these compounds.
How they increase our sense of connectedness to each other, to the world, to nature, Rosalind Watts has done brilliantly.
as a nature connectedness scale that she developed as a result of people who've been through psilocybin experiences who actually feel more connected to the natural environment as a result of their experience and how you can use nature as an integration tool.
So it's just like all, a lot of these really restrictive ways that we think about mental health and how it's delivered and what it includes, you know, we,
all of a sudden we can't just not talk about spirituality because the preponderance of people having a psycho-spiritual experience with this are much higher than maybe they would in CBT, depending on how it's structured, right?
So these domains like nature, existence, phenomenology, all of these are entering into the space.
So we can't really, and we're not trying to restrain that based on what we think is allowed in healthcare, right?
Um, so also the way someone looks in their experience or what they say, or, you know, we give people permission to scream and yell and, um, vocalizations are welcome.
And the same way that you walk past a labor delivery ward, you're not going to go through the ward and be like, can you keep your voices down?
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