Dr. Marielle Bouquet

a man, someone who's male identified who wishes to do some of that work, it is a rarity, I have to say.

I've had at one point in time, like 75, 80 patients.

And of those, I had like three that were men.

Well, it's telling me that we're forgetting men.

We're forgetting them.

And we need to share resources.

We need to share anything that we have, this episode, right?

Books, anything that can actually be helpful and also allow them to

have some sort of space where they can express their emotions.

We have socialized men to basically abandon their emotions and not cry.

We don't let boys cry, which then turn into men that don't feel like

They can actually emote.

And so that that can actually be such a tragic circumstance for so many men because they're human and they do have emotions and they need to talk about their emotions just like women.

Right.

And so I think that if we give them a bit more of the attention and the resources, I think that we'll be better off as a society just really kind of helping everyone, men, women, kids and, you know, anyone in between.

The hardest step is the first step.

It's acknowledgement.

It's naming the truth.

It's taking the family secrets out of the closet, sweeping them out of underneath the rug and exposing them at least to yourself.

Right.