Dr. Melissa Ilardo

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Huberman Lab · Behaviors That Alter Your Genes to Improve Your Health & Performance | Dr. Melissa Ilardo · 26 May 2025 podcast

is as a baby, they pass the baby under the canoe.

And if the baby comes out the other side, then it's a Bajo because it has held its breath like it will for the rest of its life.

And if the baby comes out the other side, then it's a Bajo because it has held its breath like it will for the rest of its life. What's the alternative? Yeah. That's why I said, I don't know if they actually do this, but it was just something that they told me. But yeah, I think there is some innate response where we know even as babies to hold our breath.

What's the alternative?

Yeah.

That's why I said, I don't know if they actually do this, but it was just something that they told me.

But yeah, I think there is some innate response where we know even as babies to hold our breath.

So we discovered that they have larger spleens.

So we discovered that they have larger spleens. So, you know, I mentioned the spleen's role in diving. It's increasing your, sometimes people call it a biological scuba tank. You know, it's increasing the amount of oxygen available to you. So, you know, our hypothesis was that they would have larger spleens because a larger spleen presumably means longer diving, safer diving.

So, you know, I mentioned the spleen's role in diving.

It's increasing your, sometimes people call it a biological scuba tank.

You know, it's increasing the amount of oxygen available to you.

So, you know, our hypothesis was that they would have larger spleens because a larger spleen presumably means longer diving, safer diving.

And so we compared them to a nearby population living in a very similar environment, but with a history of farming.

And so we compared them to a nearby population living in a very similar environment, but with a history of farming. So these are people who live right next to the ocean, but aren't really interacting with it. So, you know, Bajo children are in the water from the moment they're born almost. And then children in this other village didn't know how to swim.

So these are people who live right next to the ocean, but aren't really interacting with it.

So, you know, Bajo children are in the water from the moment they're born almost.

And then children in this other village didn't know how to swim.

And so we found that compared to that village, the Bajo had significantly larger spleens. So their spleens were about 50% larger on average. And this was true for divers and non-divers. So that showed us that it was very likely to be something genetic rather than the fact that your diving increases the size of your spleen.

And so we found that compared to that village, the Bajo had significantly larger spleens.

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