Dr. Richard Hogan

There's a bit of data on that, right?

But also...

the next thing I think about is, if I saw on a little clip of an app and it said, doesn't like cooking and, you know, loves Westlife and loves Boyzone, I'd be kind of going, fuck that.

But I'm married for 22 years.

I'm at home, I'm up on the bedroom listening to Les Miserables.

The soundtrack.

Things that you're looking for.

But you know what I mean?

No way.

No way, exactly.

I always go back to my highbrow idea of Ovid.

Do you ever, the metamorphosis.

And he's talking about that, like, in a romantic relationship, you're kind of like two spheres connected.

separate spheres that are completely the opposite to make the whole.

And I think, like, if you're looking for a relationship that's going to, you're looking for something called, I love John Lennon and I love poetry.

It's ridiculous because, like, you're looking, I think in a relational life, you're looking for someone to compliment you and to improve you and to help you and support you.

Oh, I'd say it's high.

Is it in the 70s, 80s?

But like, honestly, Gen Zers, I'm interviewing them at the moment.

A lot of those would say that they're single and like the dating apps are awful.