Drew Hernandez

is toast the minute his record comes up.

And the social stuff, the way he handled COVID, the way he had everybody, he shut down John MacArthur's church, or tried to, and harassed them while he was dining out at a French restaurant with his friends without a mask.

I mean, the guy is just, he's too easy a target to really make it whence the national

attention is on him.

And I just don't think he's... Look, I understand he's ahead in the polls.

Anything can happen.

It's way too far away to actually predict it.

I'm not making a prediction.

But he's just not the guy I'm looking at.

It's AOC who kicked me up at night.

Hold on, before, I want to hear, because you saw him actually personally, I want to hear what you think about him for 2028.

But before you sully the opinions of the, you know, you sway our fellow DW guys here, do you think, Drew and Matt, do you think that Newsom's the guy for 2028?

But Drew, wouldn't you also say that Bill Clinton and Joe Biden were greasy haircuts?

I don't know that the Democrats are willing to say that.

That's just a reality.

But you've been saying for a while, Ben, and this is something I totally agree with, that almost all of this is going to depend.

on the economy, which I think is getting better.

I mean, even the Wall Street Journal, which has been hysterically depressed ever since the tariff thing comes up, is admitting that the economy is actually turning around and doing pretty well.

And the other thing is also, you know, again, I don't think we talk too much, and the media likes this.

They want to talk about everything