Francesca Rudkin

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The Little Things · How to stop stress turning into burnout · 3 Jul 2026 podcast

You were in your 20s.

You were playing rugby professionally in Japan.

And then I suppose the simplest way of saying it is kind of the wheels fell off.

And I think it's probably important to mention here, you know how you said that your stress levels started to drop after you sort of put Dr. Derek Rogers' plan into action.

That didn't happen overnight, did it?

You had to work at it.

It was a bit of a slow process.

The ruminating is really interesting because you point out in the book something which is, I think I should probably already know, but there is a difference between pressure and stress.

And I think noting that that difference is quite important for people.

So is that the key?

Is that the key difference as to why two people can respond to the same event so differently?

One will stress and one won't.

I'm probably control.

What are you out of those three?

Oh, no, I'm catastrophizing.

And we should also say there are ways we can think about an experience we've had, but if we reflect on it, that's actually a really positive way of thinking about something that we might have been through because there's nothing necessarily negative attached to it.

You're just trying to learn from an experience maybe.

So if rumination is our first kind of step along the way of learning how to handle our stress better and managing difficult situations, where do we go from there?

Yeah, but I quite like the stress thing too, because I think we potentially stress before we get to burnout.

Would that be fair to say?

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